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    s1 offseason:

    Apr. 21. The Halifax Krakens (gretskysmullet) was the first GM to depart after just 1 year. They were replaced by Jokerit Kassel (Selanne13)
    May 02. The Highland Scotch Hounds (seadawg) was the second GM to depart after season 1. They were replaced by Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick)
    The dispersal draft is a decent way to take a GOOD team (Krakens, 4th/24) and a BAD team (Hounds 17th/24) and form two AVERAGE teams. I have also found that the odds of retaining a GM are higher if they are permitted to "select their own team".

    Here was the first 20 (critical picks):
    01 LVT - Jon Quick (LA)
    02 JoK - Alex Ovechkin (WAS)
    03 JoK - 2nd Overall Entry Pick 2016 (Patrick Laine)
    04 LVT - Victor Hedman (TB)
    05 LVT - Nicklas Backstrom (WAS)
    06 JoK - Gabriel Landeskog (COL)
    07 JoK - Blake Wheeler (WPG)
    08 LVT - Shayne Gostisbehere (PHI)
    09 LVT - Mitch Marner (TOR)
    10 JoK - Sergei Bobrovsky (CBJ)
    11 JoK - Sami Vatanen (ANA)
    12 LVT - Brad Marchand (BOS)
    13 LVT - Kyle Connor (WPG)
    14 JoK - Derek Stepan (NYR)
    15 JoK - Tomas Tatar (DET)
    16 LVT - Alex Steen (STL)
    17 LVT - Cam Atkinson (CBJ)
    18 JoK - Loui Eriksson (BOS)
    19 JoK - Kirill Kaprizov (MIN)
    20 LVT - Paul Statsny (STL)

    *This was a pretty good draft by both teams... but it bears wonderment how strong the Thunder might be right now (they are VERY strong) if they had passed on Jon Quick!
    Of note, Season 2 finishes were: 9th-Jokerit Kassel, 15th-Lake Valley Thunder


    May is Rules Discussion Month, here were the changes voted in for the upcoming s2.
    +/- weight was lowered from -0.5per to -0.25per. Many GMs were unhappy with a -3 night being -1.5pts... the result that was a -3 night became -0.75... enough to be offset by a single assist (+1).
    OTL point added for goalies. This made a lot of sense. A goalie might get his team to OT... but should not end up with less points, which happened if they gave up a goal on first shot of OT (-1). The OTL point gave that goalie +1 to counter a GA.
    Salary cap remained at $100m, FOW remained at C-only, H2H remained 23 weeks so that we each played each other ONCE exactly.



    Unfortunately, by late June, two more GMs had departed... and so we needed a 2nd dispersal draft for the teams of the CSKA Moscow (rainydrinkwater) & Hartford Whalers (Savvy1982).
    Those teams had finished 5th and 22nd/24, respectively - so it was another good dispersal draft.
    The new GMs would be:
    Tampere Polar Bears (Juoko-Pouko, who many know as the Dobber Prospect guru), and
    Toledo Walleye (goldendelicious)

    Here was their first 20 picks (who made some trades to open the top 10 picks in different order):
    01 TAM - Carey Price (MON)
    02 TOL - Nathan MacKinnon (COL)
    03 TOL - Filip Forsberg (NAS)
    04 TOL - Tyson Barrie (COL)
    05 TAM - Tuukka Rask (BOS)
    06 TAM - 2016 #3 overall pick (Jesse Puljujarvi)
    07 TAM - Dylan Strome (ARI)
    08 TAM - William Nylander (TOR)
    09 TOL - Robby Fabbri (STL)
    10 TOL - Scott Wedgewood (NJ)
    11 TOL - Malcom Subban (BOS)
    12 TAM - Kyle Turris (OTT)
    13 TAM - James Van Riemsdyk (TOR)
    14 TOL - Cam Fowler (ANA)
    15 TOL - Ryan Strome (NYI)
    16 TAM - Jeff Carter (LA)
    17 TAM - JT Miller (NYR)
    18 TOL - Darcy Kuemper (MIN)
    19 TOL - Scott Darling (CHI)
    20 TAM - Matt Dumba (MIN)

    *On re-visit, except for his 2/3/4 picks... this wasn't a good draft by the Walleye - spelling his own doom, to depart after s2's poor finish.
    *It was a much better draft by Tampere... except that having two goalies (Price & Rask) from the Atlantic creates a lot of "same night" wasted points - if he had avoided that, this is probably a top 5 team in the WHL... and his team is actually STILL holding Price AND Rask to this day!!! The Puljujarvi pick hasn't panned out to this point... but I don't think that can be criticized too much as almost every draft prospect had JP as a consensus #3.
    Of note, Season 2 finishes were: 7th-Tampere Polar Bears, 19th-Toledo Walleye



    June1 also allows Trading to Re-Open.
    Here were the most interesting trade of post-s1 June:

    Alexander Steen Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) Markham Waxers (praba) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    Brandon Dubinsky Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) Markham Waxers (praba) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    Paul Stastny Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) Markham Waxers (praba) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    2016 Draft Pick, Round 7 (Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick)) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) Markham Waxers (praba) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    Mitch Vande Sompel Markham Waxers (praba) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    Jack Roslovic Markham Waxers (praba) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    Anthony Beauvillier Markham Waxers (praba) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    Jeremy Roy Markham Waxers (praba) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    Sean Monahan Markham Waxers (praba) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM

    P7 Analysis: Winner: Lake Valley Thunder 7/10. The Waxers will win the s2 WHL championship... so let's not doubt the moves they made for veterans. But the Thunder turned his team around by going in hard on prospects - and Monahan (bigtime) and Beauvillier & Roslovic are the best three players as of today.


    2016 Draft Pick, Round 1 (Braham Pietasters (glorybe23)) Braham Pietasters (glorybe23) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    Jake DeBrusk Braham Pietasters (glorybe23) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    2016 Draft Pick, Round 1 (Markham Waxers (praba)) Braham Pietasters (glorybe23) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM
    2016 Draft Pick, Round 6 (Manitoba Moose (GinFizz)) Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick) Braham Pietasters (glorybe23) 0 Mon Jun 6, 2016, 3:00AM

    P7 Analysis: Winner: Braham Pietasters 8/10. Although the Thunder got DeBrush AND used an entry pick to nab Jakub Chychrun, the big win was the Pies getting the #1 overall pro pick and using it to select Alexander Radulov in his return to Montreal of the NHL. This ended up being big points for Braham as he exceled to the cream of the league for S3/S4/S5. Getting the #1 pro pick to draft a Russian returning to the NHL worked out so well for Braham... he would do it again the following summer (Dadonov).


    Ryan Johansen Manitoba Moose (GinFizz) Markham Waxers (praba) 0 Thu Jun 23, 2016, 3:00AM
    Connor Hellebuyck Markham Waxers (praba) Manitoba Moose (GinFizz) 0 Thu Jun 23, 2016, 3:00AM

    P7 Analysis: Winner: Manitoba Moose 6/10. Hard to peg this trade as these two teams had swapped RyJo during the regular season. RyJo would return to help the Waxers win s2, but the longterm win here was Hellebuyck on a Jets team ready to breakout.


    Tomorrow - July 31 is nothing planned, so anybody with general Season 1 comments... can chime in on what they remember!!!
    Stay tuned for Season 2 of the WHL to be covered in August 1st-15th... where we are chock full of imbalanced trades that turned the league on its head!

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    Dude... P7, Co-Commishoners and all those who helped compile these stats... this rewind is unbelievable. And just 1 more reason this pool is by far the best I've ever been a part of. I've never felt so positively challenged in a pool and when I see my name "NOT" in red or listed as the non-winner of a pick/trade, it really gives me a sense of pride! (still searching for more pride but I think I manage to stir the pot in Season 2 improving from 2nd last (and not having my own pick) to top 4 I think (and the source of LOTS of WHL chatter in the chat box!).

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    Contest for WHL GMs announced on Twitter....

    Now I will go back to reading this incredible rewind....
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    My god!! how dare you derail Pengs thread. Jeez,,, where is Pie when you need him

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    My god!! how dare you derail Pengs thread. Jeez,,, where is Pie when you need him

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    Into Season 2 of the WHL we go... here are the first 3 rounds, with some gems and duds highlighted:


    1 C Auston Matthews TOR Manitoba Moose (GinFizz)
    2 RW Patrik Laine WPG Jokerit Kassel (Selanne13)
    3 RW Jesse Puljujarvi EDM Tampere Polar Bears (Jouko-Pouko)
    4 LW Matthew Tkachuk CGY Saanichton Cougars (InForAPenny)
    5 C Pierre-Luc Dubois CBJ North London Nationals (VintageVibe)
    6 D Mikhail Sergachev MON Montreal Canadiens (newfcollins)
    7 C Clayton Keller ARI The Storm (havanablast21)
    8 D Olli Juolevi VAN Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks)
    9 C Tyson Jost COL Saanichton Cougars (InForAPenny)
    10 RW Alex Nylander BUF Wheeling Nailers (Brosive)
    11 C Logan Brown OTT Edmonton Road Runners (Lemmy)
    12 C Michael McLeod NJ Cleveland Barons (gopack26)

    13 D Jakob Chychrun ARI Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick)
    14 D Jake Bean CAR Sierra Sasquatch (Pit Bulls)
    15 D Charlie McAvoy BOS Fort Frances Muskies (Burgundy)
    16 D Nikita Zaitsev TOR North London Nationals (VintageVibe)
    17 C Kieffer Bellows NYI Grand Rapids Griffins (brakli)
    18 C Luke Kunin MIN Edmonton Road Runners (Lemmy)
    19 RW Julien Gauthier CAR Oshawa Generals (Bobby4Ever)
    20 D Dante Fabbro NSH Toledo Walleye (Goldendelicious)
    21 LW Riley Tufte DAL Manitoba Moose (GinFizz)
    22 LW Max Jones ANA Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick)
    23 C Alex DeBrincat CHI The Storm (havanablast21)
    24 C Tage Thompson STL The Storm (havanablast21)
    ...
    25 C German Rubtsov PHI Manitoba Moose (GinFizz)
    26 LW Adam Mascherin FLA Saanichton Cougars (InForAPenny)
    27 LW Cameron Morrison (N/A) Toledo Walleye (Goldendelicious)
    28 LW Tyler Benson EDM Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks)
    29 C Will Bitten (N/A) Montreal Canadiens (newfcollins)
    30 C Brett Howden TB Victoria Dead Hookers (Loch)
    31 C Pascal Laberge PHI Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks)
    32 C Henrik Borgstrom FLA North London Nationals (VintageVibe)
    33 D Sean Day NYR Victoria Dead Hookers (Loch)
    34 D Ryan Graves NYR Wheeling Nailers (Brosive)
    35 G Carter Hart PHI Edmonton Road Runners (Lemmy)
    36 LW Jake Guentzel PIT Amsterdam Red Lights (rataylor22)
    37 D Samuel Girard NSH Amsterdam Red Lights (rataylor22)

    38 RW Vitaly Abramov CBJ Amsterdam Red Lights (rataylor22)
    39 C Sam Steel ANA Fort Frances Muskies (Burgundy)
    40 C Jonathan Dahlen VAN Saanichton Cougars (InForAPenny)
    41 C Rasmus Asplund (N/A) Grand Rapids Griffins (brakli)
    42 C Drake Caggiula EDM Markham Waxers (praba)
    43 D Casey Nelson BUF Markham Waxers (praba)
    44 C Austin Czarnik BOS North London Nationals (VintageVibe)
    45 LW Martin Reway MON Jokerit Kassel (Selanne13)
    46 D Jordan Schmaltz STL Oshawa Generals (Bobby4Ever)
    47 C Nicolas Roy CAR Jokerit Kassel (Selanne13)
    48 D Kale Clague LA Manitoba Moose (GinFizz)
    ...
    49 LW Anatoly Golyshev NYI Braham Pietasters (glorybe23)
    50 LW Daniel Carr MON North London Nationals (VintageVibe)
    51 C Jordan Kyrou STL Toledo Walleye (Goldendelicious)
    52 LW Janne Kuokkanen CAR Markham Waxers (praba)
    53 LW Tyler Motte CHI Fall River's Finest (MCMackerel)
    54 D Lucas Johansen WSH Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks)
    55 G Tyler Parsons CGY Sierra Sasquatch (Pit Bulls)
    56 LW Danton Heinen BOS Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick)
    57 LW Ryan Dzingel OTT Victoria Dead Hookers (Loch)
    58 C Brendan Gaunce VAN Wheeling Nailers (Brosive)
    59 D Brendan Guhle BUF Lake Valley Thunder (First Round Pick)
    60 RW Anton Rodin VAN Markham Waxers (praba)
    61 G Alex Lyon PHI Saanichton Cougars (InForAPenny)
    62 C Trent Frederic BOS Sierra Sasquatch (Pit Bulls)
    63 D Adam Fox (N/A) Fort Frances Muskies (Burgundy)
    64 D Dennis Cholowski DET Cleveland Barons (gopack26)
    65 LW Dylan Sadowy DET Grand Rapids Griffins (brakli)
    66 LW Michael Mersch LA Oshawa Generals (Bobby4Ever)
    67 G Mason McDonald CGY Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks)
    68 C Michael Amadio LA Toledo Walleye (Goldendelicious)
    69 C Jordan Weal PHI Oshawa Generals (Bobby4Ever)
    70 G Linus Soderstrom NYI Sierra Sasquatch (Pit Bulls)
    71 C Maxim Letunov SJ Cleveland Barons (gopack26)
    72 RW Cliff Pu BUF Sierra Sasquatch (Pit Bulls)


    Notes:
    *The #3 spot was just the worst place to be - EVERY draft guru had Puljujarvi at #3, so this was a no-brainer... it just hasn't panned out to this point.
    *Going with Tkachuk over PL Dubois has worked out quite well for the Cougars - probably the first pick to deviate from consensus order.
    *Some years have a magic tier... and here, the talent seems to have dropped off a cliff at pick #8 (Juolevi)
    *It was a great draft by the Storm (havanablast21) nabbing Keller at #7 and then DeBrincat at #23. Besides good trading, good drafting can make a team.
    *Also great nab by Lemmy with Carter Hart at #35, and then immediately after TWO very nice picks by rataylor in Guetzel and Sam Girard.
    *Kyrou has maintained good trade-value (/hype) throughout the league's duration... but he hasn't yet shown it at the NHL level... possibly 20-21.
    *The Adam Fox pick by Burgundy required some waiting... but it appears to have been worth it for a very smart & mature D-man
    *The Spits had dealt their own pick (#24) to make a run at the s1 championship, I moved that late 1st (#24) for Josh Bailey and Mark Streit... wish I would've kept Bailey, but I cut him... ho-hum

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