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    https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...502890498?s=19

    More changes are coming in BUF. I believe several members of hockey operations are being let go
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    By the time all of this plays out Jack Eichel will be the GM


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    By the time all of this plays out Jack Eichel will be the GM
    Wasn't he already GM, coach, and water-boy?
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    I wonder about Ralph Krueger and how this plays out for him.
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    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Quote Originally Posted by butch View Post
    Ray Shero , come on down .
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    I wouldn't want the job until the team is sold
    Nice to know that Ray Shero is on our boards. At least you could have come up with a better pseudonym than "eric daoust", lol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...502890498?s=19

    More changes are coming in BUF. I believe several members of hockey operations are being let go
    Purge as much as necessary and let the new management hire their own people...and then give them 3 or 4 years (a lifetime in professional sports) to get back on their feet. Good luck Jack Eichel, your team is rebuilding...still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...502890498?s=19

    More changes are coming in BUF. I believe several members of hockey operations are being let go
    From the Buffalo News: "We already knew assistant GMs Randy Sexton and Steve Greeley were gone. Then came Rochester coach Chris Taylor and assistants Gord Dineen and Toby Peterson. Director of Scouting Ryan Jankowski. His assistant, Jeff Crisp. And several of the team's scouts and development coaches." Speculation that Buffalo's draft will be run by Sabretooth ...

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    It sounds like the Pegulas are cleaning house so they don't have to pay anyone for a few months since NHL contracts for both players and staff tend to run from July 1st to July 1st. Why would they need to pay a scouting staff as Central Scouting provides a list for free?!!

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    Chiarelli will fix that out....
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    Won't do well until they get Eichel help. And they need to either find massive diamonds in the rough or get lucky and have good players take massive pay cuts to play with Eichel.

    Skinner, Okposo, Johansson, and having Risto are anchors of contracts on that team.

    But omg the new GM has some work to do when he/she arrives.

    UFA's or RFA's:
    Simmonds, Frolik, Reinhart, Vesey, Girgensons, Larsson, Kahun, Olofsson, Lazar, Montour, Pilut, Ullmark.

    So another goalie, 1-2D, 8-9F need to be signed or re-signed. So like 37mill in space for 11-12 players.
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    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
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    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    It sounds like the Pegulas are cleaning house so they don't have to pay anyone for a few months since NHL contracts for both players and staff tend to run from July 1st to July 1st. Why would they need to pay a scouting staff as Central Scouting provides a list for free?!!
    If they have a contract, aren't they still obligated to pay them out? I don't know. I know it's that way with coaches and GMs.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    If they have a contract, aren't they still obligated to pay them out? I don't know. I know it's that way with coaches and GMs.
    Typically it's you pay the coach until he gets a new job.

    So the Leafs would be pay Babcock until Babcock signs with a new team. Depends how the contract is written though, but seems to be common practice with coaches. I don't know about GMs though.
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    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
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    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    It sounds like the Pegulas are cleaning house so they don't have to pay anyone for a few months since NHL contracts for both players and staff tend to run from July 1st to July 1st. Why would they need to pay a scouting staff as Central Scouting provides a list for free?!!
    This matches up well with the recent article from the Athletic chronicling the bumbling, in-over-their-head, overly-ambitious, selfish Pegulas. The article made me angry and I don’t particularly care about Buffalo sports.
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    GM and coach contracts aren't July1st written. They are dated to "random" dates. So trying to save money move with firing a GM is not true. They pay out the contract, and staff members deals aren't July1st written. So what's the point besides wanting him out, and a new GM in place for the draft. The only thing I could see is maybe some health insurance not happening when someone is fired as a cost saving.
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    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Won't do well until they get Eichel help. And they need to either find massive diamonds in the rough or get lucky and have good players take massive pay cuts to play with Eichel.

    Skinner, Okposo, Johansson, and having Risto are anchors of contracts on that team.

    But omg the new GM has some work to do when he/she arrives.

    UFA's or RFA's:
    Simmonds, Frolik, Reinhart, Vesey, Girgensons, Larsson, Kahun, Olofsson, Lazar, Montour, Pilut, Ullmark.

    So another goalie, 1-2D, 8-9F need to be signed or re-signed. So like 37mill in space for 11-12 players.
    Risto has two years left at $5.4 million. And Johansson one year at $4.5 million. I personally would not call either of those contracts anchors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    Risto has two years left at $5.4 million. And Johansson one year at $4.5 million. I personally would not call either of those contracts anchors.
    Anchors for when they're on the books. Less Risto. Johansson 4.5mill for meh is tough but ya, one yr isn't an anchor I guess,
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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