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    There it is, gang!
    DobberHockey.com is now relaunched. Enjoy! I think you'll like it

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    Looks good Dobber!


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    Maybe I am missing it, but is there a spot where we can comment on the posts?

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    Thanks, it does look better.

    Of course, I do have some constructive feedback to share.

    Initial comments relate to viewing it from my personal laptop.

    Menu bar
    That is no longer showing, rather have to click the three horizontal line button at the top right to show the menu options. Can you put the menu options permanently across the top again? EDIT: see update below, shows correctly on my work laptop. Not sure why there is a difference.

    Blank space
    I find there is a lot of unnecessary blank space in between components/sections, whether it's between the articles or below 'upcoming games' on the right hand side. EDIT: see update below, looks better on my work laptop. Not sure why there is a difference. EDIT2: On personal laptop the extra space might be linked to either the components on the right hand side or the ad below the second pair or articles.

    Article snippets
    I've mentioned this before but I don't see the point of adding the start of the article as a snippet on the home page. I know you said you need to 'reel me in' but if the title doesn't grab my attention then I don't expect the snippet will either. All this does is create more scrolling.

    But if you insist on keeping text there, then instead of showing the start of the article, why don't you add a description that expands on the title? That would be a better way to get readers' attention IMO.

    More scrolling
    With the extra space and the snippet text, there's more unnecessary scrolling down the page.

    Links into article
    I've also mentioned this before but there are three (!) links to click into the article: 1) on the photo, with the (unnecessary) slide in graphic; 2) the title; and 3) 'read more'. That's overkill. If you want to be able to click on the photo as a hyperlink, that's fine, along with the title. No need to go beyond that. The slide in graphic provides no value, and the 'read more' is unnecessary.

    Article photo
    When you click into the article the photo is massive! Really don't see the point of that other than just adding more space. How many people will need that photo to be that huge, as we are just wanting to read the article. I wonder how that will look on mobile... Update checking kindle - the photo is bigger than my screen! Way too big.

    Added info down right side
    I like the addition. Useful snapshots of key information and links to source material.

    Load new posts
    Although I would prefer a proper end point on a web page, I appreciate that you removed the automatic load and allowed the user the choice.

    An idea for those who don't want to load more: how about adding a link that takes you to the archive as well? You could have two buttons, one saying 'Load More Posts' and the other saying 'Go to Column Archive' or something. I know the options are there at the top, but you have to scroll back up to find it. Unless...

    Freeze top menu/bar
    When you start scrolling down, the top (black) bar doesn't stay there. I think having the top bar frozen and an additional link at the bottom of the page that refers to the archive could get more people reading older articles. Especially new users who may not go through the top menu thoroughly at first, and it's currently not visible. EDIT: see update below, it does freeze on my work laptop, so not sure why there is a difference.

    Overall
    At a first glance it's an improvement, and appreciate all the work going into it. A few tweaks and it could be even better. Thanks.

    If I have any additional feedback (checking on my kindle, for example), I'll add them here. Of course.


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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post

    Menu bar
    That is no longer showing, rather have to click the three horizontal line button at the top right to show the menu options. Can you put the menu options permanently across the top again?

    Blank space
    I find there is a lot of unnecessary blank space in between components/sections, whether it's between the articles or below 'upcoming games' on the right hand side.

    Freeze top menu/bar
    Just checked on my work laptop and the menu bar does show and it's frozen, which is good. A suggestion - you might want to freeze the other Dobber sites at the top as well so they are more visible? Or put them in the top (black) bar so it automatically freezes? Just an idea.

    The spaces in between components is better on my work laptop as well.

    Not sure why it looks different on my personal laptop.

    UPDATE 2 (kindle):

    It doesn't load properly on my kindle. The components that should be down the right hand side (with the exception of 'Find Us on Facebook') appear below the third/fourth articles in the main area. Then the next articles appear below them.

    Menu bar
    That is no longer showing, rather have to click the three horizontal line button at the top right to show the menu options. Can you put the menu options permanently across the top again?
    This is the same on my kindle. The top bar doesn't freeze either.
    Last edited by horrorfan; Yesterday at 5:29 AM. Reason: Added updates throughout

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfcollins View Post
    Maybe I am missing it, but is there a spot where we can comment on the posts?
    I don't see one either. I think the comment box and the share button are both gone at the moment.
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    One thing I am missing are the Previous and Next article buttons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfcollins View Post
    Maybe I am missing it, but is there a spot where we can comment on the posts?
    Facebook comments are live, may have to wait a sec? But they're there. Will have a better solution eventually, as these don't notify the writers of new comments and I always forget to check - which reduces my responses versus what I was doing before.
    The Best Fantasy Hockey Site

    15-Team Keeper, points only, best 12 fwd, 4 dman, 2 G count. Playoffs count.

    F - Crosby, Atkinson, Marchand, Silfverberg, Scheifele, Aston-Reese, Ehlers, Arvidsson, Guentzel, Kadri, Czarnik, Foegele, Hinostroza, T. Wilson, Ferland, Rattie, Tierney
    G - Bobrovsky, Lehner, Talbot, Delia, Pickard
    D - Yandle, Trouba, Letang, Gustafsson, Pulock, T. Myers, Morrissey, Schmaltz

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    Thanks, it does look better.

    Of course, I do have some constructive feedback to share.

    Initial comments relate to viewing it from my personal laptop.

    Menu bar
    That is no longer showing, rather have to click the three horizontal line button at the top right to show the menu options. Can you put the menu options permanently across the top again? EDIT: see update below, shows correctly on my work laptop. Not sure why there is a difference.

    Blank space
    I find there is a lot of unnecessary blank space in between components/sections, whether it's between the articles or below 'upcoming games' on the right hand side. EDIT: see update below, looks better on my work laptop. Not sure why there is a difference. EDIT2: On personal laptop the extra space might be linked to either the components on the right hand side or the ad below the second pair or articles.

    Article snippets
    I've mentioned this before but I don't see the point of adding the start of the article as a snippet on the home page. I know you said you need to 'reel me in' but if the title doesn't grab my attention then I don't expect the snippet will either. All this does is create more scrolling.

    But if you insist on keeping text there, then instead of showing the start of the article, why don't you add a description that expands on the title? That would be a better way to get readers' attention IMO.

    More scrolling
    With the extra space and the snippet text, there's more unnecessary scrolling down the page.

    Links into article
    I've also mentioned this before but there are three (!) links to click into the article: 1) on the photo, with the (unnecessary) slide in graphic; 2) the title; and 3) 'read more'. That's overkill. If you want to be able to click on the photo as a hyperlink, that's fine, along with the title. No need to go beyond that. The slide in graphic provides no value, and the 'read more' is unnecessary.

    Article photo
    When you click into the article the photo is massive! Really don't see the point of that other than just adding more space. How many people will need that photo to be that huge, as we are just wanting to read the article. I wonder how that will look on mobile... Update checking kindle - the photo is bigger than my screen! Way too big.

    Added info down right side
    I like the addition. Useful snapshots of key information and links to source material.

    Load new posts
    Although I would prefer a proper end point on a web page, I appreciate that you removed the automatic load and allowed the user the choice.

    An idea for those who don't want to load more: how about adding a link that takes you to the archive as well? You could have two buttons, one saying 'Load More Posts' and the other saying 'Go to Column Archive' or something. I know the options are there at the top, but you have to scroll back up to find it. Unless...

    Freeze top menu/bar
    When you start scrolling down, the top (black) bar doesn't stay there. I think having the top bar frozen and an additional link at the bottom of the page that refers to the archive could get more people reading older articles. Especially new users who may not go through the top menu thoroughly at first, and it's currently not visible. EDIT: see update below, it does freeze on my work laptop, so not sure why there is a difference.

    Overall
    At a first glance it's an improvement, and appreciate all the work going into it. A few tweaks and it could be even better. Thanks.

    If I have any additional feedback (checking on my kindle, for example), I'll add them here. Of course.


    UPDATE:



    Just checked on my work laptop and the menu bar does show and it's frozen, which is good. A suggestion - you might want to freeze the other Dobber sites at the top as well so they are more visible? Or put them in the top (black) bar so it automatically freezes? Just an idea.

    The spaces in between components is better on my work laptop as well.

    Not sure why it looks different on my personal laptop.

    UPDATE 2 (kindle):

    It doesn't load properly on my kindle. The components that should be down the right hand side (with the exception of 'Find Us on Facebook') appear below the third/fourth articles in the main area. Then the next articles appear below them.



    This is the same on my kindle. The top bar doesn't freeze either.

    Hey I appreciate the breakdown! I can do some of this for sure.

    Menu bar: This shows for all formats. That little square grid at the very top, click that for the network menu bar. Was there from the start. I added a label to that grid now so you can see it better. Full network bar appears in desktop format
    Blank space: this is related to ads. Ads do not always show up, so space appears.
    Article snippets: I hear you, I get it. But my preference is to have this. I hope it can be ignored if it bothers you, I don't see a negative to have a few extra words there, and in some cases it's a positive. I'll keep an open mind (i.e. it's not set in stone) but for now this is how I like it.
    Scrolling: True, only on mobile. And it is no longer endless, as the 'load more posts' is there.
    Links to article: Edit: I just looked at them - I need the magnifying glass to show credit for photo. I'll remove the link circle.
    Article photo: As with all new websites now, the article is the background meant to fill the page. It's a style. I've heard a lot of good feedback on this. Very sleek. Kindle (should) treats this as mobile would - so four articles, then four widgets. Structure of site is a set of four articles, set of four widgets. I had asked to switch to two articles, two widgets, two articles, two widgets. But time taken up to do that would eat into DobberProspects launch so I decided it wasn't worth it.
    Menu bar freeze: this is a great thought. For now, since this only impacts mobile, there 'is' an up arrow that shoots you to the top instantly, to then click the menu. (I know that's an extra tap and an extra half-second, and I get that in today's internet world that means everything (haha))
    The Best Fantasy Hockey Site

    15-Team Keeper, points only, best 12 fwd, 4 dman, 2 G count. Playoffs count.

    F - Crosby, Atkinson, Marchand, Silfverberg, Scheifele, Aston-Reese, Ehlers, Arvidsson, Guentzel, Kadri, Czarnik, Foegele, Hinostroza, T. Wilson, Ferland, Rattie, Tierney
    G - Bobrovsky, Lehner, Talbot, Delia, Pickard
    D - Yandle, Trouba, Letang, Gustafsson, Pulock, T. Myers, Morrissey, Schmaltz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    I don't see one either. I think the comment box and the share button are both gone at the moment.
    Underneath the ad, underneath related posts, it is there.

    On mobile it's above the FB widget and below 'related posts'

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanuksanan View Post
    One thing I am missing are the Previous and Next article buttons.
    Okay, I'll take a look
    The Best Fantasy Hockey Site

    15-Team Keeper, points only, best 12 fwd, 4 dman, 2 G count. Playoffs count.

    F - Crosby, Atkinson, Marchand, Silfverberg, Scheifele, Aston-Reese, Ehlers, Arvidsson, Guentzel, Kadri, Czarnik, Foegele, Hinostroza, T. Wilson, Ferland, Rattie, Tierney
    G - Bobrovsky, Lehner, Talbot, Delia, Pickard
    D - Yandle, Trouba, Letang, Gustafsson, Pulock, T. Myers, Morrissey, Schmaltz

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