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    Team is in my signature. I'm trying to get the 2nd pick without giving up my 3rd and 4th pick. He said he wants to get an upgrade somewhere and is willing to also give up Ritchie or Vrana in the deal. Problem is, he's not interested in Werenski as he already has Jones. Is this another situation where I would have to give up Draisaitl to interest him? Here is his team:

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    There is one spot for his 2nd pick but I'm trying to get it. Thanks for the help in advance.
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    Skaters:
    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
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    GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
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    I don't think it's worth it to give up draisaitl in any attempt at getting the 2nd pick. Youd never receive the proper value imo. If hes not into werenski there's not a lot left to entice him and since you already have picks 3 and 4 you should probably just hold off. Otherwise you are likely to overpay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon23 View Post
    I don't think it's worth it to give up draisaitl in any attempt at getting the 2nd pick. Youd never receive the proper value imo. If hes not into werenski there's not a lot left to entice him and since you already have picks 3 and 4 you should probably just hold off. Otherwise you are likely to overpay.
    Alright for sure. I just got some intel that Kaprizov and Sorokin are going one and two. If that's true then is Laf and Byfield the picks at 3 and 4?
    12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
    Skaters:
    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
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    GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
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    i dont think you have nothing other than Draisaitl that would interest anybody for #2 pick and that includes Werenski. If he is saying he is willing to add Vrana to this deal, its pretty convincing what he is looking at. Unfortunately you have a pretty weak core and you need to keep drafting well to improve over next few year.

    I would consider moving Leon for Matthews + 2nd overall but i dont think this will be a popular idea on here
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    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    i dont think you have nothing other than Draisaitl that would interest anybody for #2 pick and that includes Werenski. If he is saying he is willing to add Vrana to this deal, its pretty convincing what he is looking at. Unfortunately you have a pretty weak core and you need to keep drafting well to improve over next few year.

    I would consider moving Leon for Matthews + 2nd overall but i dont think this will be a popular idea on here
    Maybe Leon and Morrissey for Auston and Vrana along with the 2nd pick?
    12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
    Skaters:
    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
    Goalies:
    GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
    Team:
    https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/leag...gi/team/roster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawee View Post
    Alright for sure. I just got some intel that Kaprizov and Sorokin are going one and two. If that's true then is Laf and Byfield the picks at 3 and 4?
    If you can get laf and byfield 3 and 4 then you are laughing. No need for pick 2. I dont think he'd ever go for a matthews for draisaitl scenario either. Hes looking for draisaitl for the 2nd and vrana by the sounds of it and that's a loss for you imo.

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    He said he'll consider it, but he'll replace Morrissey with something else. Hopefully Matthews and Vrana help out a ton to rebuild my core. I can't do it with just Draisaitl and Werenski.
    12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
    Skaters:
    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
    Goalies:
    GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawee View Post
    He said he'll consider it, but he'll replace Morrissey with something else. Hopefully Matthews and Vrana help out a ton to rebuild my core. I can't do it with just Draisaitl and Werenski.
    Wow, I stand corrected. If he wants drai and any other guy on your roster other than werenski or Morrissey for matthews, vrana and the 2nd, you take that deal for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon23 View Post
    Wow, I stand corrected. If he wants drai and any other guy on your roster other than werenski or Morrissey for matthews, vrana and the 2nd, you take that deal for sure
    Alright for sure. He said he'll replace Morrissey and he'll see if there is someone that would work for him. Hopefully I can pull it off!
    12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
    Skaters:
    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
    Goalies:
    GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
    Team:
    https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/leag...gi/team/roster

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    If you can keep Draisaitl and if your intel is correct, why not keep Drai AND draft Laf and Byfield?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike's Lemons View Post
    If you can keep Draisaitl and if your intel is correct, why not keep Drai AND draft Laf and Byfield?
    True. But who would help out more? Draisaitl and whatever I throw in instead of Morrissey along with the 3rd and 4th pick? Or Matthews, Vrana and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th picks to go with Cirelli and Werenski. Draisaitl is a stud but I'm trying to decide if doing this can help more, especially if I can dump a bad contract as well. Thanks for the feedback! I will post here once he comes back with an official counter offer.
    12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
    Skaters:
    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
    Goalies:
    GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
    Team:
    https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/leag...gi/team/roster

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    if you get that 2nd pick and Kaprizov really goes 1st...take Laf, Byfield and Sutzle...man i would love to get that trio lol.
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    Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
    Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO

    C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    if you get that 2nd pick and Kaprizov really goes 1st...take Laf, Byfield and Sutzle...man i would love to get that trio lol.
    Stutzle over Rossi? Just wondering, as I am very high on Rossi. Should I take Stutzle still?
    12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
    Skaters:
    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
    Goalies:
    GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
    Team:
    https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/leag...gi/team/roster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawee View Post
    Stutzle over Rossi? Just wondering, as I am very high on Rossi. Should I take Stutzle still?
    Lots of folks are making the case for Stutzle going 2nd. I haven't seen that with Rossi. I still think Byfield is the defacto 2nd OA, but that tells you just how good Stutzle may turn out. I'd take him over Rossi.
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    Honestly, sometimes the trades you DON’T make turn out best. I think you’ll give up too much for that 2nd pick
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