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    Got offered Jake Guentzel for my Brayden Point in my all stats dynasty league is this something I should go for or will Point bounceback to 18-19like production?

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    What was Point like in 18-19? Where is Guentzel eligble?

    I suspect the answer to your question lies in those 2 answers. I think Point can rebound, but I do think this is the real Guentzel. Guentzel would help your RW nicely. LW not as much, but he may also be C eligible.
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    Guentzel for me.

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    I believe Point was around a 4.3 area?, and Guentzel as of now according to Fantrax is a LW/RW
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    Your sig says H2H points, but doesn't list what categories you accumulate points for. Can you put them down please. Also, daily or weekly starts?

    Personally I prefer Point but I can see why you'd be looking at doing this. You only start 2C and you already have McDavid and Eichel down the middle (along with a couple other solid centers). You do have a lot of multi-position players to fill the winger voids so you are pretty well set. Wheeler is probably your best RW and you have his in the center slot in your sig (I know that doesn't mean much).

    I'd like to have all the info before I'd recommend one way or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Your sig says H2H points, but doesn't list what categories you accumulate points for. Can you put them down please. Also, daily or weekly starts?

    Personally I prefer Point but I can see why you'd be looking at doing this. You only start 2C and you already have McDavid and Eichel down the middle (along with a couple other solid centers). You do have a lot of multi-position players to fill the winger voids so you are pretty well set. Wheeler is probably your best RW and you have his in the center slot in your sig (I know that doesn't mean much).

    I'd like to have all the info before I'd recommend one way or the other.
    so true we can only start 2C, but we also have 2UTIL spots as well and its daily starts

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    Guentzel, they wash each other out in the points you get in hits from Jake, Point can make up for in FOW, also Jake shoots more. Extremely murky waters in Tampa and you can never rely on Cooper to roll consistent lines whereas Jake is seemingly attached at the hip to Sid.
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    Guentzel will give you most points based on stats..he is more physical of the 2 and i believe he can be counted for more hatties in a year than point.
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    I think I'd take the deal, because I feel that dual eligibility wingers have more positional value than a guy who only plays center. The actual player value is really close, so give me lineup flexibility with this one.
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    I dont know if there's a right or wrong answer. Very close IMO. It's definitely a win-win for both teams so usually when there's no winner, I usually keep what I have. Probably not what you want to hear, but if I don't see a benefit for making a trade, I usually don't.
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    So, the fly in this is Anthony Cirelli. If Cirelli takes that juicy 1C position in Tampa, Point’s upside is capped as a 2C, and maybe also as a PP2. I take this deal. Guentzel will be worth same or more over next 2 years, Point maybe same, but maybe less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Brad View Post
    So, the fly in this is Anthony Cirelli. If Cirelli takes that juicy 1C position in Tampa, Point’s upside is capped as a 2C, and maybe also as a PP2. I take this deal. Guentzel will be worth same or more over next 2 years, Point maybe same, but maybe less.
    No offense, but I think that's a might big "if".

    Both will be playing with elite wingers, no matter who's the first or second line. As far as the PP goes, Point sets up nicely in the slot and I am not sure I see Cirelli moving him out of the placement any time soon.
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