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    I am going to start a new dynasty league this summer and am looking for advice. What do you like and dislike about your league? (This will be a free league.)

    I am considering either a full salary cap league with contracts or a limited keeper league with a max number of years for a keeper. Any thoughts are appreciated.
    10 Team, 60 Player Roster
    G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
    C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
    RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
    LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
    D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
    G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen

    Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov

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    Most of my keeper leagues, especially the cap ones, don't value D enough. You should try and find a way to boost D value in the H2H categories, be it Dpoints, or D takeaways or something to boost the value of D. If FOW are going to be in your setup, be prepared for Centers to have an exuberant amout of value as well.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Most of my keeper leagues, especially the cap ones, don't value D enough. You should try and find a way to boost D value in the H2H categories, be it Dpoints, or D takeaways or something to boost the value of D. If FOW are going to be in your setup, be prepared for Centers to have an exuberant amout of value as well.
    i find that if you use hits and blocks or even hit/block category , D gets elevated a bit...the main 3 leagues im in are all similar format and they count G, A, P, STP, PIM, H/B, SoG, ToI and either FoW or Corsi depending on league. In those settings D are actually quite important. Even tho initial thinking is that you can get by with sub par D, i find that teams with strong Ds compete year to year on consistent basis.
    14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
    Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups

    Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
    Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO

    C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
    G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    i find that if you use hits and blocks or even hit/block category , D gets elevated a bit...the main 3 leagues im in are all similar format and they count G, A, P, STP, PIM, H/B, SoG, ToI and either FoW or Corsi depending on league. In those settings D are actually quite important. Even tho initial thinking is that you can get by with sub par D, i find that teams with strong Ds compete year to year on consistent basis.
    In my cap leagues, I don't see that, but that's my leagues I guess.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    i dont play cap leagues at all...but i can see it being more of an issue....i personally target Dman that shoot a lot and hit/block a lot and i let points come as a premium...i dont think that approach works well in cap league...
    14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
    Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups

    Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
    Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO

    C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
    G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones

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    I'm in six pools on fantrax. A couple things that I like/don't like from those:

    I'm not the biggest fan of Short Handed Points or Shutouts being stand alone cats.
    Special Teams Points - incorporating SHP & W+SO I like, but it's a fine line because you don't want the cats to become to 'gimmicky'
    If you have enough skater cats... I mind them less.

    D-points I really like. Def. adds value on Dmen

    I prefer FO% or Net FOW to FOW - Should Centre taking 23 draws a night and going 12-11 really be more valuable than a C taking 12 and going 9-3?

    Balance G and skater stats. I don't like leagues with 40% or even more G stats for weighting. in a 12-6-2 league - 2/20 players carry 40% of stats? I'm not a fan.

    I have one pool - keep 12 with a 3yr contract limit per player (cap). I like this wrinkle. We're wrapping up year 4 and this past Sept. was the contract release of 80% of every superstar in the NHL. Made for a real fun re-draft. Esp. for me. I went on a title run (successful) so didn't have a couple of my higher round picks. Led to some real wheeling and dealing and in depth research.

    Put a strict limit on transactions. The tighter the restrictions the more fun the pool (for me) It really strangles waiver-churning & promotes trading. Have a 14tm with 1 UFA & 1 WW move per week.
    The ones with 3-4 transactions per week - I bleed them and exploit it. Also less likely to trade.

    14+ teams is also more fun. It really dries up the Wire during the season. If someone needs to fill a roster hole - trading becomes primary option #1

    if you start 4 at each forward position - start 6D. It only makes sense to balance.

    When setting it up and tinkering with cats & settings - check the player pool frequently to see how player rankings change based on category weighting/inclusion. Having G and D within your top 20 when reviewing the past 3-4 years of stats with those settings shows balanced weighting.

    I'm a prospect junkie. so 25+ prospects would always be my preference.

    I also prefer being able to trade draft picks beyond the current season. even one extra year makes a big difference when creating a trade offer
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    Think long and hard about the size of your league and keep the rules as simple as possible. More people and more gimmicks means more work for the commissioner. More gimmicks also opens the door for the tools to be horribly misused.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    I'm in six pools on fantrax. A couple things that I like/don't like from those:

    I'm not the biggest fan of Short Handed Points or Shutouts being stand alone cats.
    Special Teams Points - incorporating SHP & W+SO I like, but it's a fine line because you don't want the cats to become to 'gimmicky'
    If you have enough skater cats... I mind them less.

    D-points I really like. Def. adds value on Dmen

    I prefer FO% or Net FOW to FOW - Should Centre taking 23 draws a night and going 12-11 really be more valuable than a C taking 12 and going 9-3?

    Balance G and skater stats. I don't like leagues with 40% or even more G stats for weighting. in a 12-6-2 league - 2/20 players carry 40% of stats? I'm not a fan.

    I have one pool - keep 12 with a 3yr contract limit per player (cap). I like this wrinkle. We're wrapping up year 4 and this past Sept. was the contract release of 80% of every superstar in the NHL. Made for a real fun re-draft. Esp. for me. I went on a title run (successful) so didn't have a couple of my higher round picks. Led to some real wheeling and dealing and in depth research.

    Put a strict limit on transactions. The tighter the restrictions the more fun the pool (for me) It really strangles waiver-churning & promotes trading. Have a 14tm with 1 UFA & 1 WW move per week.
    The ones with 3-4 transactions per week - I bleed them and exploit it. Also less likely to trade.

    14+ teams is also more fun. It really dries up the Wire during the season. If someone needs to fill a roster hole - trading becomes primary option #1

    if you start 4 at each forward position - start 6D. It only makes sense to balance.

    When setting it up and tinkering with cats & settings - check the player pool frequently to see how player rankings change based on category weighting/inclusion. Having G and D within your top 20 when reviewing the past 3-4 years of stats with those settings shows balanced weighting.

    I'm a prospect junkie. so 25+ prospects would always be my preference.

    I also prefer being able to trade draft picks beyond the current season. even one extra year makes a big difference when creating a trade offer
    This is good stuff. Thanks

    Most of your points confirmed thoughts I already had especially about Dmen with hits and blocks.. Limiting the daily transactions to encourage trading is something I didn't realize. One league I am in has weekly pickups so there is much more trading compared a league I am in that has daily pickups. But I also don't want a situation like I have in a league where an owner continually trades and often takes advantage of weaker owners who he trades with often. So I don't know what the happy medium is. I lean towards having a trade limit.
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    G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
    C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
    RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
    LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
    D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
    G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen

    Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov

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    if I ever start a league from scratch again I'd consider having just 1 goalie starter position instead of traditional 2 .

    limiting goalie starts per week is another option but gm's paying close attention could cheat the system by starting the final day of matchup below the limit yet start 2 goalies and end up being 1 over the max which is something fantrax couldnt enforce since gm was under limit when day started . kinda like how you can go over the season enforced gp limits on final day of season in a yahoo points or roto league if you start day below the limit . If commish is up front that its alright to cheat the system then everyone will be on same level playing field going into season.

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    The longer I have been playing the more I like points-based scoring, rather than categories. You can still make stuff like Blks, Hits, etc. worth points, but roll it all into one number so scarce events like GWG, Shutouts, hell even goalie wins in a deep league, don't have an out-sized impact on a matchup as short as one week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydream Nation View Post
    This is good stuff. Thanks

    Most of your points confirmed thoughts I already had especially about Dmen with hits and blocks.. Limiting the daily transactions to encourage trading is something I didn't realize. One league I am in has weekly pickups so there is much more trading compared a league I am in that has daily pickups. But I also don't want a situation like I have in a league where an owner continually trades and often takes advantage of weaker owners who he trades with often. So I don't know what the happy medium is. I lean towards having a trade limit.
    Vet GM's with an interview or questionnaire before letting them in would be my suggestion to try to limit that in-experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    The longer I have been playing the more I like points-based scoring, rather than categories. You can still make stuff like Blks, Hits, etc. worth points, but roll it all into one number so scarce events like GWG, Shutouts, hell even goalie wins in a deep league, don't have an out-sized impact on a matchup as short as one week.
    I'm in two leagues like this. One I set up as Commish.

    There's two sides to this.
    The Positive - it's a different spin & it is a lot of fun. You don't worry as much about goalie starts. In mine, say a goalie loses 4-1 with 40 SA he would still provide + 4.25pts. +/- turns into more of a fun cat. Worth .25 fpts it's not make or break, but a -4 = -1pts... a couple high minus players becomes a bit of a drag on your overall team.

    Down by 40pts you don't feel totally out of a matchup. We've had 80pt swings in one night before. Your team goes off you don't worry about covering a single category and not making a dent. points are points. We've had some epic come-backs

    The negative - definately less strategy. It's more a plug and play because points are points. You don't worry about owning McNabb who's a hits/blocks specialist. He might be a fringe 6th Dman because he gives a lower team 2.9 fpts/gm. Making him a marginal own - rather than a mandatory periph-cat stuffing own. There's no debating whether to start a G to protect GAA or SVPCT. - you just start your G and take the pts.
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    i personally like category scoring most....you need to be decent in every category or at least in most to compete. It allows for more trades imo as you can trade scoring for physical stats or whatever you need. In point scoring system you look at total points player produces which limits trading opportunities imo. All my category scoring leagues have high volume of moves and same cant not be said in point scoring system leagues im in.
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    Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups

    Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
    Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO

    C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
    G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones

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