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    Just joined a new "points only" (G + A) league. I have the 3rd pick in the defenceman rounds. Makar and Hughes will most definitely be going 1/2. Who do you pick at 3 between these guys?

    I was leaning towards,
    1. Dahlin
    2. Chabot
    3. Heiskanen

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    Are these guys your only options? Wondering why no love for anyone over 23...
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    D: Carlson, Makar, Pionk, Petry, Pulock, Fox
    G: Holtby, Markstrom, Lehner, Samsonov, Shesterkin (IR)

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    That would be my order. Dahlin should be the 1st off the board TBH. But I wold take whoever is left of Dahlin/Makar/Hughes - Dahlin is the youngest of the 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhonny View Post
    Are these guys your only options? Wondering why no love for anyone over 23...
    It's a dynasty. Young high end Dmen always go first/early. But I see your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhonny View Post
    Are these guys your only options? Wondering why no love for anyone over 23...
    What lucafen4 said. It's a new dynasty league so the high end premium assets always seem to be the young elite talent over established older versions. Acquiring a Dahlin or Makar vs Josi or Hedman is ridiculous. That's why the young guys are coveted more I guess.

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    I agree with grabbing the super young stars first, however don't fall into the trap of going with youth only. Proven middle-age players will put your team over the top especially if you can get them past their value point. Even guys like Petry might be available much later. You can easily win early championships on those picks alone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I agree with grabbing the super young stars first, however don't fall into the trap of going with youth only. Proven middle-age players will put your team over the top especially if you can get them past their value point. Even guys like Petry might be available much later. You can easily win early championships on those picks alone.
    Good points.

    The last two dynasties I drafted from scratch I went under 25 for the majority and also super young - It landed me Svech, Dahlin, Tkachuk.

    I also as Eric mentioned, in the later rounds, drafted older players - Edler, Petry etc.

    That way if you find you are out of it in year 1 you have real valuable trade assets to build on your core. IE: I moved Weber in one for Klingberg, 1st & a prospect
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    Example dynasty league start-up draft from last summer. Not points-only but you get the idea. Tons of "non-prospects" were picked much later than they should have been. It's not just vets that slip far down.

    Pos Player Rnd Pk Ov
    F Nikita Kucherov - TB 1 2 2
    F Taylor Hall - ARI 2 13 27
    G Frederik Andersen - TOR 3 2 30
    F Mika Zibanejad - NYR 4 13 55
    F Elias Lindholm - CGY 5 2 58
    D Matt Dumba - MIN 6 13 83
    F Phil Kessel - ARI 7 2 86
    D P.K. Subban - NJ 8 13 111
    F Jonathan Marchessault - VGK 9 2 114
    G David Rittich - CGY 10 13 139
    D Dustin Byfuglien - WPG 11 2 142
    F Kevin Labanc - SJ 12 13 167
    F J.T. Miller - VAN 13 2 170
    D
    Jake Muzzin - TOR
    14
    13
    195
    G Thatcher Demko (R) - VAN 15 2 198
    F Drake Batherson (R) - OTT 16 13 223
    D Adam Boqvist (R) - CHI 17 2 226
    F Mats Zuccarello - MIN 18 13 251
    D Erik Cernak - TB 19 2 254
    F
    David Perron - STL
    20 13
    279
    D
    Samuel Girard - COL
    21 2
    282
    F Nick Ritchie - BOS 22 13 307
    F Kirby Dach (R) - CHI 23 2 310
    G Ilya Sorokin - NYI 24 13 335
    F Brett Connolly - FLA 25 2 338
    F Vinnie Hinostroza - ARI 26 13 363
    F
    Chris Tierney - OTT
    27
    2 366
    D
    Duncan Keith - CHI
    28
    13
    391
    F Dillon Dube (R) - CGY 29 2 394
    G Jack Campbell - TOR 30 13 419
    F J.T. Compher - COL 31 2 422
    D Philippe Myers (R) - PHI 32 3 437
    F Alex Newhook - COL 32 13 447
    F Alex Barre-Boulet (R) - TB 35 2 478
    G
    Pavel Francouz - COL
    35
    12
    488
    D Pierre-Olivier Joseph (R) - PIT 36 13 503
    D Ryan Merkley (R) - SJ 37 2 506
    D
    Alex Goligoski - ARI
    38
    13
    531
    F
    Adam Gaudette - VAN
    39 2 534
    D Brandon Carlo - BOS 40 13
    559


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    10 Team H2H Points (Keep 1C, 2W, 2D, 1G, & 1 non-goalie):
    G,A,+/-, PIM, PPG, SHG, GWG, OTG, FWs, Hits, Blks, Maj, Mis, (bonus scoring for D-men makes them comparable to Wing)
    Wins, Saves, GA, Shutouts

    18 Man Roster (2 IR slots) Daily Start: 2C, 4W, 4D, 2G

    C: MacKinnon, Zibanejad, Horvat, Kopitar
    W: Pastrnak, Rantanen, P. Kane, M. Tkachuk
    D: Carlson, Makar, Pionk, Petry, Pulock, Fox
    G: Holtby, Markstrom, Lehner, Samsonov, Shesterkin (IR)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I agree with grabbing the super young stars first, however don't fall into the trap of going with youth only. Proven middle-age players will put your team over the top especially if you can get them past their value point. Even guys like Petry might be available much later. You can easily win early championships on those picks alone.
    Good idea Eric. I'll try for a mixture of youth and Vets. I prefer my core to be young (20-24), so my first couple of picks will tend to be that. I expect to get some big pts producers later in the draft due to their age.

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