The Coronavirus Pandemic

[GretzkysMullet]

Huh, no wonder President Trump keeps slamming the media.

"Our commitment at POLITICO is to journalism that gets its facts straight. We regret we fell short in this case."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...f-china-214107

Attachment 4761

Actually, this is what responsible media outlets do when new information comes to light.

[Auston'sWilly]

Actually, this is what responsible media outlets do when new information comes to light.

Actually, responsible outlets don't rush to print bullcrap.
There's no need for a retraction if you do your job properly.

[rataylor22]

Huh, no wonder President Trump keeps slamming the media.

"Our commitment at POLITICO is to journalism that gets its facts straight. We regret we fell short in this case."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...f-china-214107

Attachment 4761

So just to be clear here. Your issue is that a credible news organisation researched and published an article after attempting to reach all relevant parties for comment, and they updated their article with new information as it was received and issued an apology?

Also to clarify, you do in fact watch and trust Fox News?

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Actually, responsible outlets don't rush to print bullcrap.
There's no need for a retraction if you do your job properly.

Again to clarify. You watch and trust Fox News? Do you consider them responsible?

[Auston'sWilly]

So just to be clear here. Your issue is that a credible news organisation researched and published an article after attempting to reach all relevant parties for comment, and they updated their article with new information as it was received and issued an apology?

Also to clarify, you do in fact watch and trust Fox News?

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Again to clarify. You watch and trust Fox News? Do you consider them responsible?

Just to be clear, you parroted a bullshit "gotcha" story about the President and now you're trying to distract from that. Nice try.
Also there was no actual apology. (Specificity matters, remember).

[rataylor22]

Just to be clear, you parroted a bullshit "gotcha" story about the President and now you're trying to distract from that. Nice try.
Also there was no actual apology. (Specificity matters, remember).

Interesting that you would claim other people are trying to distract lol.

It was a pretty simple question that you should be able to answer fairly simply and straightforwardly

And yes, specificity matters, but you don't need to say "I apologize" for the statement to be a clear apology.

[rataylor22]

Well, while Trumpets sit on the moral quandary of the Fox News question and how best to dodge and not answer the question, another one has arisen

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...101_story.html

Seemingly some amount of proof/evidence that the CCP did in fact hide/lie about Covid-19, but accepting it will force them to accept other things they won't want to. Moral quandaries abound.

[Rylant]

Politico is highly regarded with regards to News bias and responsible journalism. It sucks that they got it wrong in the first place, but they did what they could to correct it. Let’s be real, when Fox gets it wrong, they rarely retract and if they do, it tends to be half-hearted. For the record, every single news organization in the world, gets something wrong from time to time. Politico gets it wrong far less than most news organizations and handles their retractions responsibly when they do. It’s why they and organizations like them (BBC, Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, etc) are highly regarded, and News agencies like Fox and even to a lesser extent, CNN, are not as highly regarded.

Rylant

[Auston'sWilly]

Let's be real, indeed.
FOX is right-biased.
Of course.
This is indisputable.

But at least they don't pretend to be otherwise.
They exist to balance the scale a little since there are far more left-biased outlets than right. This is also indisputable if you're being honest. And the giant lefty platforms (youtube/google) are abusing their power by taking it upon themselves to censor any opinions they don't agree with - even if it's coming from doctors. This sort of activity is far worse than anything Fox reports.

I get why people don't like Fox.
They're controversial, and in your face, with a lot of condescending tones from their hosts.

But at least they don't show reality tv moments like Brian Stelter talking about his teary feelings late at night.
Don't get me wrong, that was hysterical, but most people expect news from their news networks, rather than the pathetic dramedy that CNN pukes out.
Or how about Chris Cuomo having a (100% fake) emergence from his basement.
He had already admitted to breaking his quarantine days earlier.

And that's just in the last couple of weeks!!!

How about Don Lemon assaulting that man in a bar?
Or Biden's allegation?
Why is it that the left loudly proclaims "Believe All Accusers" except when they accuse a Democrat?!

But yeah, Fox is a problem. lol

[lucafen4]

Just watch Stephen Colbert for your news.

[rataylor22]

Let's be real, indeed.
FOX is right-biased.
Of course.
This is indisputable.

But at least they don't pretend to be otherwise.
They exist to balance the scale a little since there are far more left-biased outlets than right. This is also indisputable if you're being honest. And the giant lefty platforms (youtube/google) are abusing their power by taking it upon themselves to censor any opinions they don't agree with - even if it's coming from doctors. This sort of activity is far worse than anything Fox reports.

I get why people don't like Fox.
They're controversial, and in your face, with a lot of condescending tones from their hosts.

But at least they don't show reality tv moments like Brian Stelter talking about his teary feelings late at night.
Don't get me wrong, that was hysterical, but most people expect news from their news networks, rather than the pathetic dramedy that CNN pukes out.
Or how about Chris Cuomo having a (100% fake) emergence from his basement.
He had already admitted to breaking his quarantine days earlier.

And that's just in the last couple of weeks!!!

How about Don Lemon assaulting that man in a bar?
Or Biden's allegation?
Why is it that the left loudly proclaims "Believe All Accusers" except when they accuse a Democrat?!

But yeah, Fox is a problem. lol

As expected, a Trumpian, long-winded, noisy rant that does not address nor even acknowledge the question from a Trumpet.

[audiopile]

FOX and CNN are both part of the problem, and neither is truly News don't kid yourself. Both are "reality TV soap opera with political alliance" for morons.

(Sorry I said I wouldn't do crappy posts anymore but I cant help myself on this one.)

[forumname]

FOX and CNN are both part of the problem, and neither is truly News don't kid yourself. Both are "reality TV soap opera with political alliance" for morons.

Exactly. Arguing back and forth about which is worse is just senseless, and defending either puts you firmly in the moron category as far as I'm concerned. Best to just avoid them both.

[pmorrow]

You guys argued so much they created a new forum

[Rylant]

Let's be real, indeed.
FOX is right-biased.
Of course.
This is indisputable.

But at least they don't pretend to be otherwise.
They exist to balance the scale a little since there are far more left-biased outlets than right. This is also indisputable if you're being honest. And the giant lefty platforms (youtube/google) are abusing their power by taking it upon themselves to censor any opinions they don't agree with - even if it's coming from doctors. This sort of activity is far worse than anything Fox reports.

I get why people don't like Fox.
They're controversial, and in your face, with a lot of condescending tones from their hosts.

But at least they don't show reality tv moments like Brian Stelter talking about his teary feelings late at night.
Don't get me wrong, that was hysterical, but most people expect news from their news networks, rather than the pathetic dramedy that CNN pukes out.
Or how about Chris Cuomo having a (100% fake) emergence from his basement.
He had already admitted to breaking his quarantine days earlier.

And that's just in the last couple of weeks!!!

How about Don Lemon assaulting that man in a bar?
Or Biden's allegation?
Why is it that the left loudly proclaims "Believe All Accusers" except when they accuse a Democrat?!

But yeah, Fox is a problem. lol

Mediabiasfactcheck.com on Fox News:

RIGHT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

◾Overall, we rate Fox News strongly Right-Biased due to editorial positions and story selection that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed factually and borderline Questionable based on poor sourcing and the spreading of conspiracy theories that later must be retracted after being widely shared. Further, Fox News would be rated a Questionable source based on numerous failed fact checks by hosts and pundits, however straight news reporting is generally reliable, therefore we rate them Mixed for factual reporting.

Mediabiasfactcheck.com on CNN:

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Left Bias sources.

◾Overall, we rate CNN left biased based on editorial positions that consistently favors the left, while straight news reporting falls left-center through bias by omission. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks by TV hosts. However, news reporting on the website tends to be properly sourced with minimal failed fact checks

Mediabiasfactcheck.com on Politico:

LEAST BIASED

These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes). The reporting is factual and usually sourced. These are the most credible media sources. See all Least Biased Sources.

◾Overall, we rate Politico Least Biased based on balanced coverage of news stories and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.



So yes, Fox is a problem. So is CNN, although less than Fox. Politico does it right, for the most part. I also get that you will ignore or dismiss this, and that's ok; we all expect it.

Rylant

[Auston'sWilly]

we all expect it.

Rylant

Yes, Rylant, I know. That's a big part of the problem - preconceived notions instead of open minds.