Marchand again lol!

[Fighting_Emu]

Bear with me its deadline day!!

Suzuki necas hayton and nedjovelic for marchand.

He offered the 3 without hayton. I said I needed hayton but I'd add McLeod (edm) and juulsen.

I'm also pushing to add e Staal for connor garland.

Would you do it with just the Suzuki, necas, nedj?

Would you do it with all 4- Suzuki, necas, hayton, nedj?

Would you insist on adding e Staal for garland??

Prospects are free protected keeps although necas is a roster guy. G4, a2, sog1. Garland has high aog per minute doesn't high? Those are my favorite types...

[Eskimo Brother]

Is this for the league in your sig or no?

[Fighting_Emu]

No sorry.

Weekly starts
G4, a2 sog1, plus minus add or subtract one for forwards- 3 for d. Blocks for s also add 0.3. +1 for special teams points.
Wins get 6, SO adds 3. Saves worth 0.3 each and in a weird twist goalies get g4, and a2.

C- Malkin trochek
W- Marchand marchessault vrana Kase
D- Letang Oel Hronek toews
G- Kuemper ullmark
Bn Granlund Pavelski Staal Gusev Lehkonen gourde weegar raanta nsson
Farm glass n Robertson McLeod juuslen

What you figure.

He just offered:

Gudreau Suzuki hayton necas nedj
For Malkin Marchand ullmark.

I said I might do it without ullmark so:

Gudreau Suzuki hayton necas nedj for Malkin and marchand

I also said I might do Malkin alone for Suzuki hayton necas and nedj.

Thoughts?? Help me I'm flatlining o deadline day!!!

[Eskimo Brother]

Why do you need to move one of your big guns for prospects?

I don't like the big deal. Would probably rather love Malkin for the package, but still not sure I'm convinced.

[MZac]

I would pass. Don't get caught on the wrong end of quantity vs quality.

[Fighting_Emu]

Lmao so I tried to streamline it:

Malkin McLeod juulsen
For
Gudreau Suzuki romanov

My thinking is gudreau is better on a rebuilding team and if that weren't enough adding Suzuki seals the loss of Malkin. It helps him balance his positions and malk deserves to be running wild on a playoff team. I've got less faith in romanov- especially in a point weighted format but it's still some kind of upgrade over juulsen.

Lmao- just realized my Marchand thread ended in a Malkin offer haha!!

[Fighting_Emu]

I just have an opportunity it on the deadline. I'm rebuilding and the thought of a 33 year old Malkin doesn't feel like a great keeper choice.

The deal offered now has ullmark out of it. It's basically gudreau for Marchand straight up. Then Malkin for prospects:
Suzuki
Necas
Hayton
C Petersen

I feel like I can switch the goalie to nedj in Carolina and that's where I'm leNin because la is a mess.

Thoughts?

I'm leaning towards yes. Gudreau and Marchand should be a wash by next year and converting Malkin into three top ten prospects feels like a good move...

[Fighting_Emu]

I said I'd do it with svechnimov instead as sogs play bigtime in our format. Full almost sealed offer:

Malkin Marchand
For
Svech Suzuki necas hayton and nedj

[Dobber]

Hell no. Not even close. Don't trade Marchand if they don't want to cough up a fair price. Or Malkin. Don't worry about age - that won't be an issue with them next year or the year after.

[Fighting_Emu]

Haha thanks dobber!

I got what I think is a fair price. I'm a rebuilding team so the guys slump doesn't really bother me and I'm a big fan of the prospect. Goalies are really tough to add so the goalie prospect was gravy.

Gudreau N Suzuki and Cal Petersen
For
Marchand

Thoughts?

[Fighting_Emu]

We like 5his by next year??

[Fighting_Emu]

Why do you need to move one of your big guns for prospects?

I don't like the big deal. Would probably rather love Malkin for the package, but still not sure I'm convinced.

I pushed real hard to do a similar package for Malkin but no dice. Was only available for Marchand and evben this we got done with like 5 minutes left

[Eskimo Brother]

I would have rathered just holding. Seems like you got too attached to the idea of moving him that you undersold.

[Fighting_Emu]

I would have rathered just holding. Seems like you got too attached to the idea of moving him that you undersold.

I know were sometimes on different pages but I so much disagree- lol!

By next year...

Is Marchand even a lock to beat Gudreau?? Your first instinct might be to scoff but its a legit question. This eyar aside which is an unmitigated disaster for Gudreau- Marchand and J Hockey have been pumping out seasons in a fairly similar 85-100 point range. Theyve got no healthy puck moving D in Calgary this year. By next year with Giordano healthy, the youngsters gaining confidence and Hanifin maybe taking a meaningful step forward they will have a dynamic puck moving group again. Theyve also got secondary scoring developing in the first time in forever which should help take the pressure off too. Guys 26- one bad year is absolutely acceptable here.

All that said a healthy, happy, supported Johnny Hockey should probably be pencilled in between 85-100. He'll get prognosticated lower because fantasy hockey is very much a "what have you done for me latel;y" proposition but realistically its the exact same range. In fact hes actually a historically been more of a volume shooter than Marchand which plays to our scoring (G4, A2, Sog1). So this year aside were looking at predictive ranges that essentially mirror each other with Gudreau having 5 extra years to hit a higher peak.

Then you add Suzuki- lol! hes looking like an offensive cornerstone- haha! I really think his short term range is 55-70 the next couple years but all hes done is exceed expectations time and again. i could have had Hayton, Necas or him and this was easy for me- I believe Suzuki has really separated himself in a major way. Next year he will be their version of Pettersen (lite) and the following year theyll have Caufield as their Boeser (plus) and Suzuki will have the same keeper/trade value of a Gudreau or a Marchand. I honestly believe that and I think my timeline might be being too patient if anything.

Then in a league where even the worst backups are taken (weve got 8 goalies with 20 or more fpts- which is still negligible- Ryan Miller and Domingue are the only goal;ies whose names are remotely recognizable)- goalies are hard to acquire. This piece was just "icing" in my opinion but adding a guy whose next in line to be a starter is a pretty solid add. I know LA will need time to turn things around and Cals not even a lock- but as a "throw in" this is a fantastic piece.

Im just shocked basically because pre-season Im not even sure Id be able to ask for a plus between Marchand and Gudreau. Now I not only got one- it was most likely a foundational piece and some sweet, sweet icing on top- lol! Im second guessing my Bishop trade- but I dont regret this one. I feel like this was nothing short of an in-field homerun!!

[MZac]

Next season I would project Marchand besting Gaudreau in every one of your categories except for assists. Maybe not by a ton but he should be the best player in the deal for the next two seasons. I generally prefer the side that gets the best player and I would want the Marchand side here. It's not terrible though and at least you got a top end winger back in gaudreau.