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    Been offered:

    Josi, Vasilevsky & 8th rounder (of 10)

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    Eichel & 2nd rounder

    I'm in first, locked into playoffs with a buy. Won it all last year would love to repeat.

    Keepers after this trade would go from Kucherov, Eichel, Hedman and Bergeron/Svechnikov to Kucherov, Hedman, Josi and Vasilevsky. Can't worry too much about what the other guy would be keeping, but it would be Eichel, Gaudreau, Draisaitl & Scheifele.

    I have another deal of Holtby/Monahan/2nd for Rask/Pacioretty/7th.

    Thoughts on best option for this year and keeper 4some for next year?
    12 team H2H Fantasy Points:
    P=4 PIM=0.1 PPP=1 SHP=3 GWG=1.5 SOG=0.25 HIT=0.1 BLK=0.2
    GS=1 W=5 L=-3 GA=-1 SV=.2 & SO=10

    F: M Tkachuk, Kucherov, Pettersson, Fiala, Reinhart, Konecny, Terry, Ehlers
    D: Werenski, Andersson, Weegar
    G: Shesterkin, Hill, Gustavsson
    IR: Kane, Svechnikov

    Keep 4 bolded (based on last season keepers)

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    Any chance you can move Shesterkin since you wouldn't be keeping him? Would someone else have room to keep him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyrobot View Post
    Any chance you can move Shesterkin since you wouldn't be keeping him? Would someone else have room to keep him?
    No, I picked him off the wire two days ago ... he's always available in our league. It's only start 1 goalie, people roll goalies. Samsonov is always there too, I've had them both multiple times over.
    12 team H2H Fantasy Points:
    P=4 PIM=0.1 PPP=1 SHP=3 GWG=1.5 SOG=0.25 HIT=0.1 BLK=0.2
    GS=1 W=5 L=-3 GA=-1 SV=.2 & SO=10

    F: M Tkachuk, Kucherov, Pettersson, Fiala, Reinhart, Konecny, Terry, Ehlers
    D: Werenski, Andersson, Weegar
    G: Shesterkin, Hill, Gustavsson
    IR: Kane, Svechnikov

    Keep 4 bolded (based on last season keepers)

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    I would do the deal for Vas. Not sure I would keep Josi over Svech but that topic is for another day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyrobot View Post
    I would do the deal for Vas. Not sure I would keep Josi over Svech but that topic is for another day.
    So you'd essentially do Vasi+8th for Eichel+2nd ... I know I have to think short term to win, but Pionk and Theodore aren't hurting me.

    Last 30 days (fantasy points): Pionk (51.15), Theodore (48.70), Hedman (42.85) & Josi (54.85)
    12 team H2H Fantasy Points:
    P=4 PIM=0.1 PPP=1 SHP=3 GWG=1.5 SOG=0.25 HIT=0.1 BLK=0.2
    GS=1 W=5 L=-3 GA=-1 SV=.2 & SO=10

    F: M Tkachuk, Kucherov, Pettersson, Fiala, Reinhart, Konecny, Terry, Ehlers
    D: Werenski, Andersson, Weegar
    G: Shesterkin, Hill, Gustavsson
    IR: Kane, Svechnikov

    Keep 4 bolded (based on last season keepers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie35 View Post
    So you'd essentially do Vasi+8th for Eichel+2nd ... I know I have to think short term to win, but Pionk and Theodore aren't hurting me.

    Last 30 days (fantasy points): Pionk (51.15), Theodore (48.70), Hedman (42.85) & Josi (54.85)
    How does Vas stack up against Eichel and Holtby for fantasy points for season and the last month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie35 View Post
    No, I picked him off the wire two days ago ... he's always available in our league. It's only start 1 goalie, people roll goalies. Samsonov is always there too, I've had them both multiple times over.
    If quality goaltending is always on the WW then don't trade a 23 year-old Eichel for a goalie. Especially in a KEEP 4 league. Big fat "NO" to this offer. Walk away. No, run away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyrobot View Post
    How does Vas stack up against Eichel and Holtby for fantasy points for season and the last month?
    Vas: season 337.80, month 81.80
    Eichel: season 403.95, month 71.60
    Holtby: season SHIT, month SHIT

    Looking at Dobber’s keeper rankings, Vas #1 goalie by a lot, Josi/Hedman are 2 & 3 (I traded Carlson last year and got Kuch).
    12 team H2H Fantasy Points:
    P=4 PIM=0.1 PPP=1 SHP=3 GWG=1.5 SOG=0.25 HIT=0.1 BLK=0.2
    GS=1 W=5 L=-3 GA=-1 SV=.2 & SO=10

    F: M Tkachuk, Kucherov, Pettersson, Fiala, Reinhart, Konecny, Terry, Ehlers
    D: Werenski, Andersson, Weegar
    G: Shesterkin, Hill, Gustavsson
    IR: Kane, Svechnikov

    Keep 4 bolded (based on last season keepers)

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    I think it helps you address goalie issues this year. I'd prefer not keeping a goalie in a keep 4, but if I was keeping one, he'd be the guy I keep.

    So if it helps you repeat, go for it. I'm also not sure if I keep Svechnikov over other options.
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    Default Re: Eichel for Josi & Vasilevsky

    Don't keep a goalie. In this league you want top end forward keepers. I'm holding eichel.
    Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2

    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

    Forwards:
    C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund

    Defense:
    B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin

    Goalie:
    J. Binnington

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    I'm also not sure if I keep Svechnikov over other options.
    If I stand pat, who’d be the 4th keeper of not him in your opinion?
    12 team H2H Fantasy Points:
    P=4 PIM=0.1 PPP=1 SHP=3 GWG=1.5 SOG=0.25 HIT=0.1 BLK=0.2
    GS=1 W=5 L=-3 GA=-1 SV=.2 & SO=10

    F: M Tkachuk, Kucherov, Pettersson, Fiala, Reinhart, Konecny, Terry, Ehlers
    D: Werenski, Andersson, Weegar
    G: Shesterkin, Hill, Gustavsson
    IR: Kane, Svechnikov

    Keep 4 bolded (based on last season keepers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie35 View Post
    If I stand pat, who’d be the 4th keeper of not him in your opinion?
    My bad I did not realize you only start 1 goalie. I agree with keeping Eichel.

    My 4th would be Svech.

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    He just up’d the offer with Teravainen... I already have his twin in Svechnikov. His thinking, as is mine, to beef up for the run this year...but agree with the group it’s a huge blow to my keepers, not just keeping a goalie (albeit the only one in the league I would at this point) as well as possibly two D.

    I have done, and won once, keeping F, D, D, G ... but it’s a long shot.
    12 team H2H Fantasy Points:
    P=4 PIM=0.1 PPP=1 SHP=3 GWG=1.5 SOG=0.25 HIT=0.1 BLK=0.2
    GS=1 W=5 L=-3 GA=-1 SV=.2 & SO=10

    F: M Tkachuk, Kucherov, Pettersson, Fiala, Reinhart, Konecny, Terry, Ehlers
    D: Werenski, Andersson, Weegar
    G: Shesterkin, Hill, Gustavsson
    IR: Kane, Svechnikov

    Keep 4 bolded (based on last season keepers)

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    I don't like the keeper outlook of the trade, but it does beef you up for a win this year.

    It's up to you if you prefer sacrificing future for a better shot at winning now.

    I would decline myself and work on boosting my team elsewhere.

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    Default Re: Eichel for Josi & Vasilevsky

    Decided to take the advice of the group and declined.

    Pulled off other trades and acquired Wheeler, Backstrom and Zibanejad ... gave up some picks, but nothing not worth it for the season.

    Hoping Shesterkin can keep it up and Kuemper's comeback is speedy.
    12 team H2H Fantasy Points:
    P=4 PIM=0.1 PPP=1 SHP=3 GWG=1.5 SOG=0.25 HIT=0.1 BLK=0.2
    GS=1 W=5 L=-3 GA=-1 SV=.2 & SO=10

    F: M Tkachuk, Kucherov, Pettersson, Fiala, Reinhart, Konecny, Terry, Ehlers
    D: Werenski, Andersson, Weegar
    G: Shesterkin, Hill, Gustavsson
    IR: Kane, Svechnikov

    Keep 4 bolded (based on last season keepers)

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