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    Got an offer in one of my keeper leagues.

    I give Panarin. He gives up Kappo Kakko and a 1st round prospect pick in 2021.

    Our 24 team league setup uses the following categories: G, A, SOG, PPP, SHP, GWG, Hits, Blocks, PIMs, +/- and FOW. No salary cap involved.

    My gut reaction says it's a decent offer, but I am not sure if it's enough for Panarin. The team making the offer is a mid level team so this trade probably makes him better, pushing that 1st round pick down to the area of a 12-15 type of pick if I had to guess. My team is not in contention for winning at this time, if that helps.

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    Default Re: Panarin vs Kakko +

    In my opinion, this is not even close to a good offer. Stick with Panarin. You hope that Kakko turns into Panarin some day and a mid first right pick doesn’t come close to making up for the fact that you’d be giving up a proven borderline elite (and young player) for an unknown that’ll take a few years to develop (in the best case scenario).
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    G - Oettinger, Thompson, Wedgewood
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    I too feel like you could do a bit better for Panarin. Kakko is a great piece, but a pick in the teens that's a year and a half away from even being made is not enough to add up to Panarin. How much more would he be willing to add to Kakko?
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    Not sure. I woke up to this offer in my inbox.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Default Re: Panarin vs Kakko +

    Big Kakko fan here, but I would still ask for more..Panarin is an elite player in his prime

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    Panarin is a guy I would be moving because of your format, and it's not a terrible opening offer, but it seems like less than what a star player would usually go for in your setup. Are there any recent comparables?
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    Definitely doesn't seem like enough to me.
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    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
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    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
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    Default Re: Panarin vs Kakko +

    I would want more. Good starter offer that continues the conversation.

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    Default Re: Panarin vs Kakko +

    I am also in the want more camp.
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    Thanks guys.

    I declined his offer but sent him back something a little different and the conversation continues.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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