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    Team in my sig. There's a team in the middle of the standings willing to trade Marchand for some youth. Here's what I was thinking of offering, wondering if it's a good first offer, one that I should be ecstatic to get but it's too far off from being fair. Thanks for any thoughts and/or advice.

    DeBrincat, Keller and Demko
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    Marchand and B.Schenn
    16 teams, dynasty league, roto scoring: G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, SH%, FOW, HIT, BLK; GS, W, L, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO.

    C - C.McDavid, V.Trocheck, B.Jenner
    LW - J.Robertson, B.Marchand
    RW - M.Zuccarello, T.Seguin
    W - B.Schenn
    D - J.Morrissey, K.Letang, R.Andersson, S.Jones
    UT - P.Danault
    Bn - D.Krejci, S.Jarvis, A.Newhook, A.Kaliyev, J.Berggren
    NA - H.Lapierre
    G - C.Hellebuyck, J.Markstrom
    Bn - E.Merzlikins
    Inj - T.Teravainen, R.Gudas, T.Demko, R.Lehner, C.Driedger

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    I wouldn't do that deal.. insta decline if i was the marchand owner.

    you are deep on D and goalies.. i'd start there. Its a balancing act.. your forwards other than CM, CAT, Seguin are kinda weak. No point flipping a strength for a.. comparable. Balance it out. Maybe Grubauer and Karlsson.. name value alone should get some interest.

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    If you can get Marchand and Schenn for that, I'd do it.

    Dont try to overthink what he's going to do. There's only one way to find out and thats to send the offer and let him decide. Name wise, it's a good offer, if the other GM only focuses on names (which to be fair, a lot do).
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    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

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    Yeah, make the offer, see what he says. You can always add - don't negotiate against yourself. I think Demko is highly expendable for you.

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    UPDATE: he countered with Marchand and Schenn for DeBrincat, Keller and Shesterkin.

    I'm thinking that the difference between Demko and Shesterkin isn't enough to make me say no to the trade (although I really like Shesterkin). You guys like this trade for me? I've never won this league in 16 years while finishing in second place 3 times and having 7 top four finishes, so I want to make sure my desperation to win this year (I'm in 3rd place, about 10 points behind the leader) doesn't cause me to give up too much future value. Thanks for the help!
    16 teams, dynasty league, roto scoring: G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, SH%, FOW, HIT, BLK; GS, W, L, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO.

    C - C.McDavid, V.Trocheck, B.Jenner
    LW - J.Robertson, B.Marchand
    RW - M.Zuccarello, T.Seguin
    W - B.Schenn
    D - J.Morrissey, K.Letang, R.Andersson, S.Jones
    UT - P.Danault
    Bn - D.Krejci, S.Jarvis, A.Newhook, A.Kaliyev, J.Berggren
    NA - H.Lapierre
    G - C.Hellebuyck, J.Markstrom
    Bn - E.Merzlikins
    Inj - T.Teravainen, R.Gudas, T.Demko, R.Lehner, C.Driedger

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    Hmm, I'm not as excited about moving Sheshterkin as I would be to move Demko and doing this deal now. Not saying Demko isn't a good goalie and worth holding on for your team but I see a brighter future for Sheshterkin. Smart play on the other GM to ask for him.

    I'm curious to hear what others think, but if it's me, I'd probably pass on including Sheshterkin.
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    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    I would accept. Your goalie situation allows you to move Shesterkin without much consequence. And Keller’s name outweighs his value in this format.

    But more than anything, this is the type of move that is sometimes necessary to win a championship. Go for it.

    Also, in a 16 team league, how did you get all those goalies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreed3184 View Post

    Also, in a 16 team league, how did you get all those goalies?
    I know! I feel like I've been spending the last 15 years trying to get goalies in this league and now I have more than I know what to do with. I targeted Helly and Demko early on in their minor league career. Used my #1 rookie pick and #1 waiver pick at the beginning of this year to get Shesterkin and Merzlikins. Both Grubauer and Markstrom were guys I snagged after they were dropped at low points in their value. So basically....luck and a strong dedication to grabbing every goalie possible.

    Thanks for the help guys.
    16 teams, dynasty league, roto scoring: G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, SH%, FOW, HIT, BLK; GS, W, L, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO.

    C - C.McDavid, V.Trocheck, B.Jenner
    LW - J.Robertson, B.Marchand
    RW - M.Zuccarello, T.Seguin
    W - B.Schenn
    D - J.Morrissey, K.Letang, R.Andersson, S.Jones
    UT - P.Danault
    Bn - D.Krejci, S.Jarvis, A.Newhook, A.Kaliyev, J.Berggren
    NA - H.Lapierre
    G - C.Hellebuyck, J.Markstrom
    Bn - E.Merzlikins
    Inj - T.Teravainen, R.Gudas, T.Demko, R.Lehner, C.Driedger

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    Take the deal and run
    Keeper League: 13 teams, Keep 15
    G(25) A(25) PPP(10) SHG(20) GWG(20) +/-(10) PIM(3) SOG(2)
    W(50) GA(-15) SV(2) SO(50)

    Forwards(Start 9): Marchand, Kaprizov, W Nylander, Guentzel, Fiala, Zibanejad, Malkin, Bertuzzi, Terry, P Kane, Novak, M Johansson, Backlund, Zucker.

    Defensemen(Start 4): Makar, Letang, Josi, Hamilton, Matheson, Valimaki, Hronek

    Goalies(Start 2. 4 max per team): Jarry, Sorokin, Kotchetkov, Fleury.

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    It does hurt to lose Shesterkin but you have enough depth to get over that quickly I think. I'd pull the trigger.
    14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;

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    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

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    F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,

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    D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev

    G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins

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    id put demko back in and do it for Marchand straight up. maybe add something small.
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    C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
    LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
    RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
    D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
    G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov

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    Insta accept. Nice trade.

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