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    Quote Originally Posted by dejeanneret View Post
    Cool stats -- thanks for posting!

    A couple things that smacked me in the face.

    Some of those first few seasons: 52 goals as a 20 year old and 65 goals as a 22 year old ... and ranks 5th and 4th all time?! Man, a few guys with some mighty prolific seasons before/at the tender age of 22!

    Current NHL record of 44 goals for a 40 year old ... that's impressive. Haven't looked it up yet, but who is that ... Howe? Jagr? Can't think of many guys who were still trucking at 40.
    yes Howe. At 40 years of age it was the first (and only) time in his career that he broke 100 pts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invictus View Post
    yes Howe. At 40 years of age it was the first (and only) time in his career that he broke 100 pts
    Classic 40yo breakout season!

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    Maybe no goals tonight....but he does have 10 hits!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerCat View Post
    Classic 40yo breakout season!
    Ya late bloomer. Just think what he could of done had he peaked earlier in his career
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    72 goals to pass Wayne Gretzky. I think Ovechkin will continue his 40-50 goal pace this upcoming season. I really hope he gets it sooner rather than later. Watching 900 goals would be incredible.

    Hopefully Kuznetsov stays with the Capitals or at least get a good replacement if Kuz really wants out. If Kuz leaves then I would lower my projection to 35-40.

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    That was a funny graphic

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    When I voted on this, I couldn't believe the difference between the yes and no votes with so many more in the no column. There is no doubt in my mind that he will pass Wayne Gretzky's goal scoring record. It will come sometime next season in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dementors' Kiss View Post
    When I voted on this, I couldn't believe the difference between the yes and no votes with so many more in the no column. There is no doubt in my mind that he will pass Wayne Gretzky's goal scoring record. It will come sometime next season in my opinion.
    Hindsight I guess but what Ovi has done from a durability and consistency stand put since this poll was created is unearthly. He's 38 years old and in his 36 year old season he scored 50 and in 37 year old season he scored 42. Your not supposed to be able to continue to do that at his age.

    On top of that it's a Gretzky record. His records were supposed to be untouchable. If Connor McDavid scored every other game for his next 1000 games, which would put him over 1500 games played in his career, he would still be over 90 goals away from the record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dementors' Kiss View Post
    When I voted on this, I couldn't believe the difference between the yes and no votes with so many more in the no column. There is no doubt in my mind that he will pass Wayne Gretzky's goal scoring record. It will come sometime next season in my opinion.
    I don't know, at the time of the poll Ovi was 34 already and still 200+ goals away. That's a tall order for anyone, and history is replete with guys really slowing down or crashing at that age or not far from it. Just another reason why it's so remarkable that we're now at where we're at and it seems it's really a matter of "when" not "if" anymore.

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    C: MacKinnon/Eichel/Kopitar/Pinto/Wright
    W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand
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    Gretzky - 204 PPG, 73 SHG
    Ovechkin - 299 PPG, 5 SHG.

    Obviously a phenomenal player and goalscorer, but stats like that tell me a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doulos View Post
    Gretzky - 204 PPG, 73 SHG
    Ovechkin - 299 PPG, 5 SHG.

    Obviously a phenomenal player and goalscorer, but stats like that tell me a lot.
    I get it but goalies were horrible back then, and the discrepancy from the top players to the middle of pack was way larger.

    You want to know what's telling, is Ovi is the only hall of famer on any of the rosters he's every played with in the NHL. Backstrom is the next closest but is far from a shoe in. Gretzkey off the top of my head played with a half dozen if you include LA and St.Louis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canucks_fan18 View Post
    I get it but goalies were horrible back then, and the discrepancy from the top players to the middle of pack was way larger.

    You want to know what's telling, is Ovi is the only hall of famer on any of the rosters he's every played with in the NHL. Backstrom is the next closest but is far from a shoe in. Gretzkey off the top of my head played with a half dozen if you include LA and St.Louis.
    Ovi played with Fedorov

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyrobot View Post
    Ovi played with Fedorov
    Barely but yes lol.
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    D: Q. Hughes,
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    Pretty cool article here reshuffling the scoring list based on era-adjusted goals.

    https://www.tsn.ca/alex-ovechkin-s-n...CS%2FMIX%2FRFY

    I particularly found this graphic to be an eye-opening illustration of the difference between in league-wide scoring during Gretzky's and Ovi's respective careers. It's a phenomenon we're all aware of -- but seeing it like this really struck me

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    C: MacKinnon/Eichel/Kopitar/Pinto/Wright
    W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand
    D: Dobson/Trouba/Mintyukov/Gostisbehere/Edvinsson/York
    G: Saros/Demko/Askarov

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejeanneret View Post
    Pretty cool article here reshuffling the scoring list based on era-adjusted goals.

    https://www.tsn.ca/alex-ovechkin-s-n...CS%2FMIX%2FRFY

    I particularly found this graphic to be an eye-opening illustration of the difference between in league-wide scoring during Gretzky's and Ovi's respective careers. It's a phenomenon we're all aware of -- but seeing it like this really struck me

    gretzky-vs--ovechkin---gpg--use-this-one--1-2017387-1696605702007.png
    Thanks for sharing this. Three things really stuck out to me. First Howe, what a beast if you included his years in the WHA, he might have another 100+ goals added to his total. 2nd Iginla, such an underrated player and sniper. Seen him in person not to long still in great shape. And 3rd Ovi is the GOAT of the goal by any metric in that article.
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    D: Q. Hughes,
    G:Bobrovsky

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