Seguin or Guentzel
Who do you prefer going forward, next year + ? Seguin or Guentzel ?
Seguin more proven but slow year, Guentzel pretty good year until the injury.
To early to pull the plug on Seguin ?
THx!
Head to Head Limited Keepers (keep 2fwd + 1Def + 1goalie)
12 teams, play:8f,4d,2g,5b
G (1.5) -A-PPP-SHP - +-(0.5) -W(2) + SO(3)
F: Barkov - Seguin - Kopitar - Johansen - Keller - Gourde - Drouin - Perron - Atkinson - Gusev - Zucker - Hayes
D- Karslon - Fowler - Ghost - Nurse
G- Price - Kumper - Hutton
Re: Seguin or Guentzel
i didnt pay much attention to guentzel this year, but he was on fire prior to injury... just not sure if thats a product of playing with guys like malkin... or can he keep it up after malkin and crosby are gone....
i would say seguin still holds more value though
12 teams, 8 keepers.
2 c, 4 w, 4 d, 2 flex, 2 g
G, A, +/-, PP, PM, S, BS
W, GAA, SV%, SO
C: Bergeron, scheifele, Backstrom, Marchessault,
W: Panarin, Hall, Radulov, Domi, Haula
D: Letang, Ellis, Edler, DeAngelo, Graves
G: Bob, Holtby, Lehner, Allen
Re: Seguin or Guentzel
I dealt Guentzel for Seguin after the injury, and I think I lost the deal--but I'm trying to stay in the mix.
Our league is points-only, so categories would be important to consider.
Points-only, Full Keeper Dynasty League
Active roster (no starts, just total points): 12 FW, 6 D, 1 Goalie
Forwards: Kucherov, Barkov, Teravainen, Seguin, Hoffman, Lindholm, Gusev, Horvat, Meier, Perron, Schwartz, Johansen, Pavelski, Buchnevich, Hischier, Granlund, Bracco
Defense: Josi, Dahlin, Letang, Gostisbehere, Ekman-Larsson, Petry, Slavin, Keith, Matheson
Goal: Lehner, Holtby, Varlamov
Farm: Soderstrom, York, Woo, Tracey, Dorofeyev
Re: Seguin or Guentzel
Seguin is 28 soon, he’s still an elite asset not old news because he’s had a slower year lol
Keeper League
No Salary Cap
Skt points: A (2), GWG (1), G (3), ShG (1), Hat Trick (1), Overtime Goal (1), +/- (0.5), PPA (0.5), PPG (1), SHA (1), SHG (2)
Goalie points: A (2), G (10), SHO (4), W (5), OL + ShL (2)
Keepers: Kaprisov (4 yr), Svechnikov (3 yr), Point (2 yr), P Kane (1 yr)
C/LW/RW
Daily
Starters: C - Horvat, Point, LW - Dubois, Kaprisov, RW - Kane, Svechnikov, D - Montour, Doughty, Skt - Hyman
Bench: Trocheck, Rakell, Wedgewood, Francouz
Rookie: Kochetkov
IR:
Max GP: C (164), LW (164), RW (164), D (164), Skt (82), Goalie (82)
1 rookie & 3 IR spots
14 teams (4 keepers/team + can carry 1 rookie over)
Fantrax
Re: Seguin or Guentzel
I still prefer Seguin beyond this year, despite what Guentzel was doing before his injury.
Re: Seguin or Guentzel
This.Originally Posted by Auston'sWilly
Re: Seguin or Guentzel
In a points only league Seguin should be valued as a 75ish point player with some upside but I wouldn't call that elite with several guys going over 100 and in the 90s these days.
Guentzel is going to play with Crosby or Malkin at 5on5 and both of them on pp1 forever more. Plus he's quite a good player with a really nice release on his own.
Seguins value is higher in leagues with more cats but I think he's a tad overvalued in points only leagues. He hasn't had more than 80 points in 5 seasons and he's only done it once with 84 six years ago. He hasn't been able to take that next step point wise that alot of us thought he would. What you do get with Seguin is a guy that doesnt miss alot of games and will get 30+ goals and 70+ points like clockwork, there is definitely value to that.
My point is that this is probably quite close at this stage and far from automatically Seguin. If I owned one I'm not sure I'd trade either of them for the other straight up. Of course if I was contending and owned Guentzel I'd do it but assuming he was healthy with a long term outlook (3 years) I don't think I would.
Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2
Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO
Forwards:
C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund
Defense:
B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin
Goalie:
J. Binnington
IR (2 max):
Re: Seguin or Guentzel
If you look at Guentzal's numbers over his career, season by season and his playoff stats, I think it's safe to say in points only, it's guentzal for me.
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