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    I'm in a dynasty salary cap league with very deep catagories.

    I was offered

    debrincat+slavin
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    Rust+ shea Theodore

    What's your thoughts?
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    I don't trust Rust as a long term elite offensive talent, whereas ADB I do.

    I would see if I could get a more reliable offensive bump on Slavin and counter
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    I'm not sure I would even risk countering. That's a steal.
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    Steal??

    I wouldnt counter because I just would have no interest. Rust might be Marchand 2.0 but its hilarious how hes got what- a quarter of a season of this production only? Slavin to Theodore I like but thats a massive drop in forward value long term- DeB a sog pig usually too.

    Prediction: Rust scores at close a little above his usual clip from here on out with the pp demotion- say a .65 ppg pace for the next 60 or so- that gives him- so add 39 to 33- so he ends with 70ish (Ill say just under- but you optimists are free to aim higher). At that point he will already have proven hes more of a .65 ppg player (pretty close to his absolute peakI would think) who just had a hot run with exposure to superstars when the team was DESTROYED by injuries. So even though the numbers will point to a 50ish point player people will draft him as the next 70 point break out and spend all season crying "What happened tyo my 70 point Rust??".

    I mean its possible hes a superstar who just figured out how to play hocket at 27 despite looking very average since his draft year. Or maybe he just caught a few bounces when injuries forced him up the lineup and exposed him to consistent pp1 time with league superstars.

    I had a sell high offer on rust and it was the easiest refusal of the year for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting_Emu View Post
    Steal??

    I wouldnt counter because I just would have no interest....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting_Emu View Post
    Steal??

    I wouldnt counter because I just would have no interest. Rust might be Marchand 2.0 but its hilarious how hes got what- a quarter of a season of this production only? Slavin to Theodore I like but thats a massive drop in forward value long term- DeB a sog pig usually too.

    Prediction: Rust scores at close a little above his usual clip from here on out with the pp demotion- say a .65 ppg pace for the next 60 or so- that gives him- so add 39 to 33- so he ends with 70ish (Ill say just under- but you optimists are free to aim higher). At that point he will already have proven hes more of a .65 ppg player (pretty close to his absolute peakI would think) who just had a hot run with exposure to superstars when the team was DESTROYED by injuries. So even though the numbers will point to a 50ish point player people will draft him as the next 70 point break out and spend all season crying "What happened tyo my 70 point Rust??".

    I mean its possible hes a superstar who just figured out how to play hocket at 27 despite looking very average since his draft year. Or maybe he just caught a few bounces when injuries forced him up the lineup and exposed him to consistent pp1 time with league superstars.

    I had a sell high offer on rust and it was the easiest refusal of the year for me...
    I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly, but if I am then you misread the initial post, as he would be selling Rust to acquire DeBrincat. DeBrincat's side being the winning one in my mind, which I think this what you're saying too.
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    Fair enough- dont mind me while I bury my head back in the sand :P

    Im just coming out of some funny Rust negotiations. The guy dangling him was rebuilding and Im grinding my way back into conetntion so I thought- yea Rust would be a nice asset. Turns out a lot of people are apparently all good pencilling him in as a ppg now and Im not nearly there. I think hes a 55 point player after this season. In fact I think hes a 55 point pace player if you acquire him today (maybe 60 since hes feeling it). He thought Forsberg was a fair starting point which was a little galling for me- so needledss to say i declined pulled plugs- but then I saw this and obviously read it backwards- haha!

    Sidenote: very nice sell high to the OP!! Masterfully done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly, but if I am then you misread the initial post, as he would be selling Rust to acquire DeBrincat. DeBrincat's side being the winning one in my mind, which I think this what you're saying too.
    Also- if thats the case then i agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting_Emu View Post
    Fair enough- dont mind me while I bury my head back in the sand :P

    Im just coming out of some funny Rust negotiations. The guy dangling him was rebuilding and Im grinding my way back into conetntion so I thought- yea Rust would be a nice asset. Turns out a lot of people are apparently all good pencilling him in as a ppg now and Im not nearly there. I think hes a 55 point player after this season. In fact I think hes a 55 point pace player if you acquire him today (maybe 60 since hes feeling it). He thought Forsberg was a fair starting point which was a little galling for me- so needledss to say i declined pulled plugs- but then I saw this and obviously read it backwards- haha!

    Sidenote: very nice sell high to the OP!! Masterfully done!

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    Also- if thats the case then i agree 100%
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    I definitely agree that you made the right choice not entertaining discussions for Forsberg.
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    I'd take DeBrincat/Slavin as offered. You are giving up a bit on D, but almost certainly gaining on F. There's a chance Rust is for real, but we simply don't know right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stacey View Post
    I'm in a dynasty salary cap league with very deep catagories.

    I was offered

    debrincat+slavin
    For
    Rust+ shea Theodore

    What's your thoughts?

    So update for everyone, ended up talking him down to:

    Rust (50% of his salary retained till end of this season)
    for
    Debrincat.

    once people found out Rust was on the market I was able to pull off a better deal for my team for the long term.
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    4 rightwing: Connor - Boldy - Coleman - Nugent-Hopkins
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    Bench: Skinner - Hertl - Stephenson
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    Good deal for you. Think Debrincat got higher upside.
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