how about the 1st and halak? will you lose Samsonov anyways? Sorry just kind of scanned and probably missed something.
I'm in first, and someones selling his team (league in sig)
He's said he wants a first, and a goalie to meet minimum goalie starts.
With my goalies, I've pieced together starts since losing Dubnyk, but I need a legit starter. Would you do a 1st round pick, 7th round pick but 1st round after keepers + a goalie for Hellebuyck or Binnington?
7th round pick+Samsonov for Hellbuyck/Binnington+17th round pick
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Wow, I'm sorry for the terrible explanation above.
Guy has Helly and Binnington, we can only keep 1 goalie, so he pretty much has to trade one. He's asked for a 1st round pick (1st after keepers) and a goalie so he can meet the minimum goalie starts/week. But I told him I'd move Samsonov but I can't say that'll help his situation. He's fine with that part.
So pretty much would you guys do an offer of:
7th round pick (1st after keepers)+Samsonov for Helly/Binnington + 17th round pick?
12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA
C: Horvat, Trocheck
LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
Util: Meier (LW, RW)
G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll
how about the 1st and halak? will you lose Samsonov anyways? Sorry just kind of scanned and probably missed something.
McDavid/Necas/ Kucherov/Bjorkstrand/Rust/Nugent Hopkins/Cirelli/Zegras/- Letang/Morrissey/Dahlin - Swayman/Saros/Skinner
Prospects include:
McTavish/Clarke/Bordeleau
Dumais/Korchinski/Hutson
Don't worry I'm not going to say anything more than I have to. If that.
12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA
C: Horvat, Trocheck
LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
Util: Meier (LW, RW)
G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll
right ok. guess it doesnt' matter which one then. i think it's a good trade if you can keep the incoming guy (either one)
McDavid/Necas/ Kucherov/Bjorkstrand/Rust/Nugent Hopkins/Cirelli/Zegras/- Letang/Morrissey/Dahlin - Swayman/Saros/Skinner
Prospects include:
McTavish/Clarke/Bordeleau
Dumais/Korchinski/Hutson
Don't worry I'm not going to say anything more than I have to. If that.
So there's zero keeper implications in this deal.
I'm not really up to speed on Samsonov. Looks like he's started 9 games, won 7 of them? He has better stats then Holtby, but isn't the clear starter. I imagine that continues for this season. I would keep Halak over him as he's currently better and in a better situation where you know he'll get a fair number of starts.
Both Hellebuyck and Binnington are playing well and getting a higher number of starts with better stats, so they're clearly an upgrade.
Question becomes, is upgrading to Hellebuyck or Binnington from Samsonov worth a downgrade from a 1st (after keepers) to a 10th (after keepers). - This is a tough question for us to answer as you know you're league best. I think Hellebuyck or Binnington likely double the wins Samsonov provides and they provide better stats, so you need to determine if that's enough to make a meaningful difference for your team, understanding it's a pretty big hit for your competitiveness next year.
If you figure this move makes your team strong enough to really compete this year and make yourself one of the top 2 teams, I would probably make this deal, but you'll need to determine that.
Well I sent an offer. See what he responds with. It hits his "needs" and I added in a d-man upgrade for myself.
First round last yr went:
Kakko, Hughes, Geuntzel, Binnington, MAF, Murray, Meier, Buff (auto), Holtby, Duby, Grubauer, Jones.
So largely goalies. It's always fair to think 40%+ of the first round is goalies in my league.
12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA
C: Horvat, Trocheck
LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
Util: Meier (LW, RW)
G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll
Play for the win this season and worry about next season at a later date. If you need a goalie then getting Hellebuyck or Binnington is a huge move in the right direction for you.
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