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    I'm in first, and someones selling his team (league in sig)
    He's said he wants a first, and a goalie to meet minimum goalie starts.

    With my goalies, I've pieced together starts since losing Dubnyk, but I need a legit starter. Would you do a 1st round pick, 7th round pick but 1st round after keepers + a goalie for Hellebuyck or Binnington?

    7th round pick+Samsonov for Hellbuyck/Binnington+17th round pick

    ---EDIT---
    Wow, I'm sorry for the terrible explanation above.

    Guy has Helly and Binnington, we can only keep 1 goalie, so he pretty much has to trade one. He's asked for a 1st round pick (1st after keepers) and a goalie so he can meet the minimum goalie starts/week. But I told him I'd move Samsonov but I can't say that'll help his situation. He's fine with that part.

    So pretty much would you guys do an offer of:
    7th round pick (1st after keepers)+Samsonov for Helly/Binnington + 17th round pick?
    12 team, H2H, 6 keeper league (Keepers in Bold)
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    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G

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    how about the 1st and halak? will you lose Samsonov anyways? Sorry just kind of scanned and probably missed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gretzky99Orr4 View Post
    how about the 1st and halak? will you lose Samsonov anyways? Sorry just kind of scanned and probably missed something.
    I could send Halak instead of Samsonov, I'm just thinking Halak>Samsonov this yr.

    And since we can only keep one goalie max, Samsonov wouldn't be a keeper if I have Andersen+Helly/Binnington.
    12 team, H2H, 6 keeper league (Keepers in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, +/-, PPP, PIM, FW
    W, GAA, S%, Saves
    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G

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    right ok. guess it doesnt' matter which one then. i think it's a good trade if you can keep the incoming guy (either one)

    McDavid/Necas/Scheiffele/ Kucherov/Bjorkstrand/Nugent Hopkins/Cirelli/Joseph/Oloffsson- Chabot/Roustalenen/Morrissey/Theodore/Myers - Andersen/Saros/Kuemper

    Prospects include:
    Glass/Frost/Hayton/Ho Sang/Dvorak/Bean/Jost/Fabbro/Noel/Abramov/Valimaki/Smith/Dube/Husso/Parsons/
    Katchouk, Frost, Formenton, Heponiemi, Hayton, Ty Smith
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    Default Re: Trade Offer for a Goalie

    So there's zero keeper implications in this deal.

    I'm not really up to speed on Samsonov. Looks like he's started 9 games, won 7 of them? He has better stats then Holtby, but isn't the clear starter. I imagine that continues for this season. I would keep Halak over him as he's currently better and in a better situation where you know he'll get a fair number of starts.

    Both Hellebuyck and Binnington are playing well and getting a higher number of starts with better stats, so they're clearly an upgrade.

    Question becomes, is upgrading to Hellebuyck or Binnington from Samsonov worth a downgrade from a 1st (after keepers) to a 10th (after keepers). - This is a tough question for us to answer as you know you're league best. I think Hellebuyck or Binnington likely double the wins Samsonov provides and they provide better stats, so you need to determine if that's enough to make a meaningful difference for your team, understanding it's a pretty big hit for your competitiveness next year.

    If you figure this move makes your team strong enough to really compete this year and make yourself one of the top 2 teams, I would probably make this deal, but you'll need to determine that.

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    Well I sent an offer. See what he responds with. It hits his "needs" and I added in a d-man upgrade for myself.

    First round last yr went:
    Kakko, Hughes, Geuntzel, Binnington, MAF, Murray, Meier, Buff (auto), Holtby, Duby, Grubauer, Jones.

    So largely goalies. It's always fair to think 40%+ of the first round is goalies in my league.
    12 team, H2H, 6 keeper league (Keepers in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, +/-, PPP, PIM, FW
    W, GAA, S%, Saves
    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G

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    Play for the win this season and worry about next season at a later date. If you need a goalie then getting Hellebuyck or Binnington is a huge move in the right direction for you.
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