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    12 team H2H multicat partial keeper counting G,A,P,+/-,PIM,PPP,SOG,Hits,Blocks,FOW,W,Gaa,Sv%,Saves, and starting 3/3/3/5/2.

    We keep 10 where at least three have to be prospects (where prospects are skaters < 201gp, and goalies <101gp). Max of two keeper goalies.

    I'm rebuilding after a string of 3 wins in 7 years, and have acquired 5 1st rounders next year.

    Current projected keepers are:
    Rantanen, Larkin, Meier, Trochek, Tarasenko, Saros, Kassian/Pulock/J. Anderson (or a 4th prospect)
    Prospects: Svech, Jarry/Samsonov/Khakonen, Necas/Cirelli/Glass/Thomas/Kyrou/Lemieux

    I've got an offer on the table where I move Samsonov and Kassian for Shesterkin and Mantha.

    I"m leaning towards taking it, as Mantha solidly upgrades Kassian/Pulock/J.Anderson as a 7th veteran keeper, and the downgrade in prospect goalie from Samsonov to Jarry, Khakonen, or Shesterkin seems insignificant.

    Given the youth movement going on, I'm not sure I'll be competitive next year. Also depends how the lottery shakes out. That said, I have acquired Tank and Rantanen shortly after their injuries which gives me some high end talent that'll speed up the rebuild.

    Make the deal?
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    G,A,P,PIM,+/-,PPP,SOG,FW,hits, blocks, W,GAA,SV%,Saves
    Start 3/3/3/5/2

    C: Kopitar, P. Suter, Carlsson (p), Lundell (p), Norris
    LW: B. Tkachuk, Stutzle (c), Colton (c), Ehlers
    RW: Rantanen, Caufield (lw), Svechnikov (lw), Foegele (lw)
    D: Dahlin, Andersson, Chychrun, Montour, Sanheim, Matheson, Faber (p)
    G: Talbot, Forsberg, Daws (p), Wolf (p, NA)
    IR: Fantilli, Sergachev, Jeannot, Ingram
    NA: Levi

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    100% make the deal.
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    ^ Easy accept. Mantha is a monster.

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    Do it before he changes his mind. I want both Mantha and Shesterkin.
    10 Team, 60 Player Roster
    G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
    C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
    RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
    LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
    D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
    G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen

    Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov

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    I think Mantha alone makes it worth it, even with how well Samsanov has been playing, I'd take Mantha and Shestyorkin any day.
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    You're getting an upgrade here, take it

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    I agree with your thinking. Pull the trigger.

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    hope this is done.
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    I agree with everyone else. Mantha >>>>> Kassian, and the goalies are mostly unknown, edge to Samsonov for me due to playing fine in NHL.
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    This did not get done. Seemed like it was on the table, and then it got pulled. We're still in talks though.

    Currently talking over:

    Grubby/Fox for Jarry/Klefbom

    I'd be getting Grubby.

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    G,A,P,PIM,+/-,PPP,SOG,FW,hits, blocks, W,GAA,SV%,Saves
    Start 3/3/3/5/2

    C: Kopitar, P. Suter, Carlsson (p), Lundell (p), Norris
    LW: B. Tkachuk, Stutzle (c), Colton (c), Ehlers
    RW: Rantanen, Caufield (lw), Svechnikov (lw), Foegele (lw)
    D: Dahlin, Andersson, Chychrun, Montour, Sanheim, Matheson, Faber (p)
    G: Talbot, Forsberg, Daws (p), Wolf (p, NA)
    IR: Fantilli, Sergachev, Jeannot, Ingram
    NA: Levi

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    Klef to Fox is a lot to give up. More than I would want to for unpredictable goalies where you may be getting an upgrade, but it's less certain.
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    Default Re: Kassian/Samsonov for Mantha/Shesterkin

    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    Klef to Fox is a lot to give up. More than I would want to for unpredictable goalies where you may be getting an upgrade, but it's less certain.
    Agree with this. Not on board with this swap.

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    I also wouldn't do that. Focus on upgrading skaters.
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    Default Re: Kassian/Samsonov for Mantha/Shesterkin

    Ended up moving Samsonov for Mantha straight up with Manthas new injury. Thanks all.

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    And then in a separate deal with the same owner, moved out Kassian, Klefbom, Saros, and Staal for Shesterkin, Grubauer, Fox, and Toffoli.

    I consider grubby from saros a substantial upgrade, and moving non keeper pieces (kassian, klef, Staal) to get that done was an easy yes.

    Projected keepers are now:
    Rantanen, Meier, Larkin, Trochek, Grubauer, Tarasenko, Mantha, Jarry (p), Svechnikov (p), Necas/Thomas/Glass/Cirelli (p)

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