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    Default K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    Right as the title says. I'm a Leafs fan. I've never been one to make dumb decisions based on that.. And last night I might have.

    With Babcock getting fired my initial thoughts were Matthews is free and he's going to blow up.

    But I offered Marchand straight up for Matthews and he took it without hesitation, guys in the league immediately texted me calling me an idiot.

    Idk I think I have good wing depth, and lacked a solid center.

    Ultimately am I a total idiot or what? I probably could've gotten more... I should've tried.

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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    I don't think you're crazy. It's awesome to have a top dog from your favourite team. Plus Matthews is way younger and just entering his prime. Marchand is a beauty (in fantasy), but he's also a rat. Let your heart guide you this time. Being a Leaf fan and having to cheer for Marchand is too much to ask for any mere mortal...
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    You may have been able to get more, but it's not a bad deal.
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    I don't see the problem with this.
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    Deal is fine. I'm all for getting your favorite players on your favorite teams so long as you don't fleece yourself doing it. This is a far cry from a fleecing. Exchanging two top end players. Marchand is better now but Matthews still has untapped upside and needs to stay healthy for a few seasons.. It's probably a loss this year but going forward it will be very close with the inevitable Matthews take over.
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    I would have wanted a little more but it's definitely fine. In a keep 8 we had Marchand go for Matthews and Meier just fyi.

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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    If I got the point system right, here's the players totals:

    2018-19:
    Marchand - 563.3pts (6.79/game)
    Matthews - 470.96pts (6.93pts/game)

    2019-20:
    Marchand - 180.66pts (8.21/game)
    Matthews - 174.50pts (7.27/game)

    I think if you can get 75+games out of Matthews, at the end of the year you'll be happy you did the deal. I'm not sure if you'll win the deal this yr, but you'll be happy you made it.
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    Based on your point system, it's a good trade for you.

    I mean, total points on the season, it's only 180 to 174 for Marchand, and Marchand's S%'s are off the charts right now (ind @ 26.3% and 5on5 @ 20.9%) so he'll slow down bigtime, while Matthews will also slowdown being at 16.9% and 15%, but much less than Marchand.

    And even last year Matthew's outpointed Marchand in your league on a per game basis 6.9 (in 68 GP) to 6.7 (79 GP), so as long as Matthews stays healthy, he's the better producer.

    That's a pretty good argument that you win this trade outright. Maybe you could have gotten more based on perception? Based on responses in your league, maybe, but you by no means lost this deal.

    EDIT: Damnit OG!!! I was working on that! You're format is better presented as well. You missed the S% info though, so take that!

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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kofax View Post
    Based on your point system, it's a good trade for you.


    EDIT: Damnit OG!!! I was working on that! You're format is better presented as well. I hate you.
    Together we formed the best response. I hadn't even noticed Marchand was shooting that high before reading your post. I'm really thinking about moving Marchand before reading this, now I'm actively hunting out a deal.
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Together we formed the best response. I hadn't even noticed Marchand was shooting that high before reading your post. I'm really thinking about moving Marchand before reading this, now I'm actively hunting out a deal.
    heh heh, for sure!

    Ya, his S%s are through the roof. He's still a crazy producer, so you need to get an insane return, but now is definitely the time to shop him.

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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    You win the deal, as you are a Leaf fan, and get the fun bonus. They also win the deal if it fills a need or they are a Marchand/Bruin fan.

    Deals can be win-win.
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    Not sure why this deal makes you an idiot but it's funny that guy texted you that.

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    in a keeper it's totally fine. if your team is close enough to win this season i might have held Marchand
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    I missed that guys in your league called you an idiot. They aren't that bright, so ignore what they say.
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    Default Re: K I traded Marchand for Matthews in a keep 6...

    Nothing wrong with that deal. Goal bonuses along with shots and blocks will favour Matthews going forward, and Marchand gets the edge in SHP. Probably could've gotten more but you traded for the player who has many prime years coming up whereas BM is a real wildcard as far as how long he can keep it up given his current age.
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