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    Deep dynasty salaried H2H league. 12 teams with approximately 80 players each between NHL scoring roster, AHL farm team and prospects.

    5/12 scoring categories for goalies: Wins, GAA, Saves, Save % and shutouts. Minimum 3 starts a week required or all 5 goalie cats are won by opponent.

    Offer is Ryan Miller (age 39) for my Casey DeSmith (age 28). Goaltending is my weakness with Gibson, Ullmark and Montembeault as my current active tendies.

    Allen, Quick and DeSmith are my only goalies on the farm team with NHL starts (13 other prospects playing in the NCAA, AHL, ECHL or KHL currently - notables are Luukkonen, Skarek and Kochetkov). Note both Allen and Quick require clearing waivers to return to the farm team if recalled, making them bad injury fill ins - with the shortage of goalies in this league, they would be claimed...

    I'd be running Montembeault, Ullmark, Gibson and Miller to get more raw saves and potentially wins if I acquired Miller.

    Does DeSmith have any future playing in the NHL? Is the short term boost from Miller worth it at the expense of approximately 7 years of DeSmith potentially making NHL starts once Miller has retired?
    12 Team Dynasty (Cap) H2H
    25 Man roster - 35 Farm - 3 years of picks, 8 rd draft.
    G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, HIT, BLK
    W, SV, SV%, GAA, SO
    Start 12F/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 5 Bench/4 IR

    C-Larkin,Monahan,ROR,Karlsson,Hischier,Coleman,Sisso ns
    LW- M & B Tkachuk, Mikheyev, Erne
    RW- Marner, P Kane, T Wilson,
    D-Dumba,McAvoy,Pettersson,Bear,Orlov,Dunn,Girard,Zad orov
    G- Gibson, Ullmark, Montembeault

    Farm notables
    Tuch,Gurianov,Sikura,Acciari,Thomas
    C Jones,Schuldt,Wolanin
    Allen,Quick,DeSmith,Kochetkov

    Juniors
    Tippett,J Robertson,Heponiemi,J Boqvist
    Wahlstrom,Bokk,Barre-Boulet,Iskhakov
    Podkolzin,Krebs,Lavoie,Texier,Holmstrom
    Luukkonen,Skarek

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    Default Re: Dynasty goaltending trade question - DeSmith for Miller?

    I understand the frustration with not having enough goaltending. At least you have some desperation guys in case of season ending injury to someone in Quick & Allen, but one seems done, and the other has never really been solid. You seem like you can safely get 3 starts a week without the Ducks handcuff, though.

    I'm guessing there's no trade market for Allen to the Binnington owner? I'd lean towards taking anything for him. as he's a waste of a roster spot sitting in your minors.

    I think I'd keep DeSmith, as Miller's NHL career is probably 40 starts from being done, and likely less. I don't see him playing beyond next year, but it's remotely possible. He's been good enough lately that I think he can get another 1 year deal at the end of the year.
    10 team Head-to-head true dynasty. Roster 33, draft 2, cut down before season. Start 1 G, 1 backup G, 6 D, 12 F arranged in 4 lines of 3. Only categories that matter are Goals, Assists, Save% with a shutout bonus. Having NHL teammates helps.

    G: Bobrovsky
    Backup G: F Andersen
    D: Ekblad, Yandle, M Reilly, Carlson, Klingberg, Letang
    F1: Couturier, Giroux, Voracek
    F2: Schiefele, Wheeler, Guentzel
    F3: Stamkos, Point, MacKinnon
    F4: Mikheyev, Bertuzzi, Seguin

    Bench:
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    G: Holtby
    D: Gardiner, Gustafsson, Makar,
    F: Bailey, Benn, Cirelli, Johnsson, Labanc, JT Miller, Necas, Pavelski
    Reserve: Datsyuk

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    Default Re: Dynasty goaltending trade question - DeSmith for Miller?

    The one thing you haven't mentioned is whether you think Miller will/can make a difference to you this year? If you are going for it this year, it could make sense.

    Given the age difference, I would probably try to get a pick thrown in , or a pick upgrade.

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    Miller definitely upgrades my raw starts and likely my wins. I'm coming off what will be my first definitive loss (other was a 5-6-1 loss) and dropping from 2/12 to 5/12.

    My last 2 years of losses in the playoffs have been a direct result of goaltending results.

    I'll definitely explore seeing if I can extract an equalizing pick to even out the age difference in the potential trade.
    12 Team Dynasty (Cap) H2H
    25 Man roster - 35 Farm - 3 years of picks, 8 rd draft.
    G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, HIT, BLK
    W, SV, SV%, GAA, SO
    Start 12F/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 5 Bench/4 IR

    C-Larkin,Monahan,ROR,Karlsson,Hischier,Coleman,Sisso ns
    LW- M & B Tkachuk, Mikheyev, Erne
    RW- Marner, P Kane, T Wilson,
    D-Dumba,McAvoy,Pettersson,Bear,Orlov,Dunn,Girard,Zad orov
    G- Gibson, Ullmark, Montembeault

    Farm notables
    Tuch,Gurianov,Sikura,Acciari,Thomas
    C Jones,Schuldt,Wolanin
    Allen,Quick,DeSmith,Kochetkov

    Juniors
    Tippett,J Robertson,Heponiemi,J Boqvist
    Wahlstrom,Bokk,Barre-Boulet,Iskhakov
    Podkolzin,Krebs,Lavoie,Texier,Holmstrom
    Luukkonen,Skarek

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    Default Re: Dynasty goaltending trade question - DeSmith for Miller?

    If goaltending is what has knocked you out in the past, and goalies are hard to come by, then yeah.....I try to squeeze some sort of pick or pick upgrade...and sell it as "this is miller's last year." I'd also sell the fact that the only reason desmith was sent down was because the penguins were worried about putting jarry on waivers.

    If you can't get a pick or pick upgrade, I'd probably put this deal on hold for awhile, and see what else is out there...

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