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    With the score tied 3-3 and 13:36 left in 3rd period Olofsson was not on the ice with PP1.

    Eichel had more than 5 minutes more TOI than Oloffsson who only logged 15:04.

    Skinner, Eichel and Reinhart topped 5 minutes of PP time, while Victor saw only 3:22.

    Goalofsson hasn't been setting the world on fire at even strength.

    Legitimate concerns Olafsson's early bright star is fading, or something typical of even an eventual Calder winner?
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    Its. one. game.

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    The concerns were there from the start. All of his goals were on the PP. His S% is sky high - there was no way he would be sustaining his scoring pace. I projected him to be a 50-point player this year and I still stand by my projection. Don't let early October scoring anomalies fool you.
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    I agree there are concerns regarding Olofsson being a liability at even strength. It could hamper his upside. I think the bigger problem is people biting too hard on a hot starter.

    Not picking on this example particularly but I feel the emotional knee-jerk analysis in every direction is getting worse every year. A lot of people are turning all of this info into an over-complicated game of 4D chess and by December most will have beaten themselves.

    As Carey Price would say: Relax. Chill out.

    FWIW I never thought Olofsson would be anywhere near the Calder. He'll be a decent role player.


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    I had him at 55 after pre-season- and it felt high at the time. After the big start I pencilled him in for 60. Im not waivering on that. The reliance on ppp is somewhat troubling but hes a legitimate talent, hes still on Eichels line. I mean he scored almost a ppg in the AHL and although Im not especially well-versed in that league- it only takes a cursory glance to see he got there without a lot of help. A lot of their success seems to be predicated on impeccable team defense/goaltending and the forwards that were there were guys like CJ Smith who play more of a two way game. I know Nylander was there too so its overtsating it to say he had NO help- but Im just saying hes got the talent and hes figured out how to translate at the Pro level. Playing with Eichel is a fantastic opportunity for any player and a guy with his talent should be able to make some noise in that role. I think we'll see him slide to L2 at time while they try Skinner on the topline. I think he'll get moved off the top PP as they tru different looks (Buffalo is one of the few teams that might have a reasonable 2D comp they could look at). he might see time on L3 if he doesnt mesh with Skinner (many players cant as he plays a different sort of kitchen sink hockey). Ultimately I think he'll spend the majority of his time on L1 and at least 50% of his time on A powerplay. That means 55-60 is still a reasonably safe floor. I still think hes a clader favorite with Hughes/Kakko/Makar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I agree there are concerns regarding Olofsson being a liability at even strength. It could hamper his upside. I think the bigger problem is people biting too hard on a hot starter.

    Not picking on this example particularly but I feel the emotional knee-jerk analysis in every direction is getting worse every year. A lot of people are turning all of this info into an over-complicated game of 4D chess and by December most will have beaten themselves.

    As Carey Price would say: Relax. Chill out.

    FWIW I never thought Olofsson would be anywhere near the Calder. He'll be a decent role player.
    Sorry, I'm new to fantasy hockey this season. Feeling my way through the dark. Learn something new about it every couple of hours.

    I've noticed my team is tearing up the league (will have been highest scoring in league 2 of 3 weeks) but has several players with unsustainable shooting percentages. I'm trying to reconcile how I handle that and felt the responses I got on Olofsson would be a nice guide for me to begin to understand where my mind should be whether on selling highs, or holding on guys with hot starts. Of course, I love watching my point total growing but I haven't gotten a feel for when to pull plugs. I don't want to ride the backs of guys like Olofsson, Neal, Haula, and then watch them drop off a cliff and wonder why my team who was drilling the league is now getting drilled. I'm sure I'll take my lumps but I want to win my league above and beyond using my first year as a learning experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I agree there are concerns regarding Olofsson being a liability at even strength. It could hamper his upside. I think the bigger problem is people biting too hard on a hot starter.

    Not picking on this example particularly but I feel the emotional knee-jerk analysis in every direction is getting worse every year. A lot of people are turning all of this info into an over-complicated game of 4D chess and by December most will have beaten themselves.

    As Carey Price would say: Relax. Chill out.

    FWIW I never thought Olofsson would be anywhere near the Calder. He'll be a decent role player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordoftheRinks View Post
    I love a good knee jerk reaction - I’m always ready to take advantage of an impatient poolie unwilling to wait for their ‘guy’ [insert name] to produce.
    McDavid has done nothing for 4 periods and I can't drop him. If you were in my league would you take him off my hands?
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    F: McDavid, Barkov, Marner, Pettersson, Stone, Olofsson, Pearson, Meier, DeBrincat, Ehlers, Fiala, Rust, Kubalik, Cirelli, Yamamoto, Tarasenko, (Ghost of Bjorkstrand...too sad to fill his spot right now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DzingelBarries View Post
    Sorry, I'm new to fantasy hockey this season. Feeling my way through the dark. Learn something new about it every couple of hours.

    I've noticed my team is tearing up the league (will have been highest scoring in league 2 of 3 weeks) but has several players with unsustainable shooting percentages. I'm trying to reconcile how I handle that and felt the responses I got on Olofsson would be a nice guide for me to begin to understand where my mind should be whether on selling highs, or holding on guys with hot starts. Of course, I love watching my point total growing but I haven't gotten a feel for when to pull plugs. I don't want to ride the backs of guys like Olofsson, Neal, Haula, and then watch them drop off a cliff and wonder why my team who was drilling the league is now getting drilled. I'm sure I'll take my lumps but I want to win my league above and beyond using my first year as a learning experience.

    Enjoy every single post I read in reply to anything I'm posting about. Appreciate the knowledge.
    Thanks for the context about being new to the fantasy world. Needs to be taken into consideration.

    There's nothing wrong with mining Neal/Olofsson/Haula for as much as you can get. I own Neal in one league and I'm doing exactly that. Sometimes it even works out long-term. Nothing is certain.

    The bigger picture is don't overreact to day-to-day happenings. Last month we had people changing their fantasy draft rankings based on preseason line combos. Most of those line combos no longer exist. I don't think Olofsson continues his current pace but I also don't think he's dead value. He's still getting good linemates. He just won't be used as much at even strength until he proves worthy. Power play specialists tend to be very streaky.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    Thanks for the context about being new to the fantasy world. Needs to be taken into consideration.

    There's nothing wrong with mining Neal/Olofsson/Haula for as much as you can get. I own Neal in one league and I'm doing exactly that. Sometimes it even works out long-term. Nothing is certain.

    The bigger picture is don't overreact to day-to-day happenings. Last month we had people changing their fantasy draft rankings based on preseason line combos. Most of those line combos no longer exist. I don't think Olofsson continues his current pace but I also don't think he's dead value. He's still getting good linemates. He just won't be used as much at even strength until he proves worthy. Power play specialists tend to be very streaky.
    Appreciate it. I'm new to fantasy hockey but am a long time fantasy football guy. I usually have 70 or more add/drops in any given league throughout the years. In the NFL you have to be quick on the draw oftentimes. It's very different playing on a daily basis over 82 games vs. 17 one-off situations. I haven't been overly reactionary (so far) despite my 15 or so add/drops. The only one I regret is Provorov but I was able to get Neal, Haula, Olofsson off the wire and I want to be sure to be the guy who is steadily adding those kinds of players. I mentioned above I'm concerned about my team after looking at the shooting % of many of my big guns. I'm looking hard right now for the next crop of them, if they even exist and trying to figure when the right moment to pull that trigger is. I'm going to guess that is a gut feel thing as nobody knows for certain who is cooling or heating and to what degree and when. The randomness is the fun and the maddening part.

    I've been up late at night and my wife wonders where her husband's gone here lately. NHL.tv has me watching every game I have time to view looking at prospects and combing things like this excellent site. Twitter has been an excellent place to to get a feel for thoughts on certain players. One thing I know, if a guy has something to him somebody somewhere is going to be talking about him.

    I appreciate the reply a bunch. Want that learning curve shortened as much as I can shorten it.
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    He practiced on PP1 yesterday according to Left Wing Lock
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    There's a few different Victor Olofssons to take stats from.

    Powerplay Victor Olofsson: 9gp, 6ppg on 14sog
    Evenstrength Victor Olofsson: 9gp, 0g on 5sog


    Likely... what I expect... is that Olofsson will be for BUF what Gostisbehere has been for PHI...
    If the shots are going in... everybody is going to love him.
    If the shots are going wide... or blocked... and cleared down the ice... it's going to be hard to see what he brings.

    Here's good breakdown on the BUF PP:

    (btw, great comparison with WAS. It's a mirror image, with Olofsson's one-timer on the right a mirror-opposite of what Ovechkin does from the left.)

    One can see that Olofsson is (or is permitted to be) VERY trigger happy in his spot.

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    In one of my leagues, I grabbed Olofsson with my last pick (291st player overall) hoping he'd be a 30 goal, 20 assist player with a lot of PP points. So far I'm absolutely thrilled with that pick. Even when he started the season on fire, I never expected him to be more than 30/20, which for a rookie is pretty darn amazing. Anyone expecting more than that is simply naive. Rarely do we see rookies come into the NHL and score 60+ pts. We've been spoiled in recent years with the likes of Matthews, Barzal, Pettersson, etc.

    60+ pts for a rookie doesn't happen too often and when it does it's usually a player with more pedigree (draft stock) than someone like Olofsson. I don't have time to look it up, but I wonder when the last time we had a rookie score 60+ pts who wasn't a top 10 draft pick, let along a 7th rounder like Olofsson.

    EDIT: Barzal was #16, so that didn't take long. That said, my point still stands. Let's just say rarely does any rookie score 60+ pts who wasn't a top 16 draft pick!
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    Calder Memorial Trophy Winners who were not a top 10 pick in the last 17yrs:

    Panarin (UFA) – 2015-16 (24yrs old)
    Tyler Myers (12th) – 2009-10 (20yrs old)
    Steve Mason (69th) – 2008-09 (21yrs old)
    Andrew Raycroft (135th) – 2003-04 (23yrs old)
    Barret Jackman (17th) – 2002-03 (21yrs old)


    They were all over 20yrs old, and most were considered top picks still. Olofsson is 24yrs old, and was 181st overall pick.
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    When a team is desperate - changes happen... just wait until he practices on line 4 at some point this year.
    It was death to Nylander and Marner.

    coaches make changes to get the team going. In game, practice, pre-game - post-game...

    I would want to see 3-5 games of only PP2 to scare me a bit... even if they shift him off Eichel's line, a top 6 role in Buffalo is pretty much locked.

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