Mantha?

[toeincrease]

I have an offer to acquire Hayes and Klingberg for my Mantha.
We have all stats basically except fow's.
My D is just ok:
Josie
Weber
Edler
Trouba
Girard
Boroweiki
Matheson
We run 5 D daily.
Guessing Klingberg would be my 2nd best dman?
Would any of you pull the trigger on this?
Ps I could use the shorty points (Hayes).

[Canucks_fan18]

It's a fair offer. Do you have depth at forward to lose Mantha? I think you need one more high end D.

[lucafen4]

If you're counting hits, blocks I think you're really undervaluing your D core.

Trouba, Edler, Weber are much more valuable than Klingberg in this kind of format. They all hit, block and at 2x the rate of Klingberg.
They all offer 40+pt upside, Trouba & Weber 50+. For a few extra points that Klingberg brings?

I pass. Hayes is borderline waiver fodder in a 12tm or smaller league. Perhaps a step removed from waivers - but barely.
This would make Kling your 5th most valuable Dman - you have Josi as well.

I would keep Mantha here.
Personally I don't like Dmen that don't block at a min. rate of 1.5 blks/gm - that's 125+ on the year.

[Canucks_fan18]

If you're counting hits, blocks I think you're really undervaluing your D core.

Trouba, Edler, Weber are much more valuable than Klingberg in this kind of format. They all hit, block and at 2x the rate of Klingberg.
They all offer 40+pt upside, Trouba & Weber 50+. For a few extra points that Klingberg brings?

I pass. Hayes is borderline waiver fodder in a 12tm or smaller league. Perhaps a step removed from waivers - but barely.
This would make Kling your 5th most valuable Dman - you have Josi as well.

I would keep Mantha here.
Personally I don't like Dmen that don't block at a min. rate of 1.5 blks/gm - that's 125+ on the year.

I agree with Lucefen about your D being undervalued in this kind of league. However I worry about their health. If you could tell me with confidence that Edler and Weber will play at least 70+ games, I would say your set on D.

[toeincrease]

To answer the question of forward depth, my opinion is that its descent.
Panarin
Mantha
Barkov
Eichel
Hoffman
Getzlaf
B.tkachuk
Hertl
Kase
Konecny
Bench: Comtois,Coleman,Compher,Grabner

[SeaDawg]

I see this as a lateral move for you, at best. Probably more likely a step back, tbh. I'm just not a fan of Hayes at all, so the deal is mostly just Klingberg for Mantha and in this format Mantha is the better own. I do like Klingberg a lot, but he is very one-dimensional.

[lucafen4]

I agree with Lucefen about your D being undervalued in this kind of league. However I worry about their health. If you could tell me with confidence that Edler and Weber will play at least 70+ games, I would say your set on D.

Weber has only had one injury in his career that caused him to miss over 20 games. If you look at his career... He's a very healthy player. Just that one large injury (second issue was found while operating on the first - only one extended IR stint)

Edler... well, no he's going to miss 15-20 games. Just a matter of what kind of chunks they're split up into.

[toeincrease]

Ok thanks for all replies.
Always good to get more opinions than the voices in my head!
Looks like the consensus is to pass on this offer, which is what I will do.