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    Default Keller - Overrated?

    I've read some stuff on Twitter about this, seems again tonight Coyotes scoring and Keller not involved at all.

    I know goals aren't his calling card, but 37 in 171 is pretty poor.

    I recall last year he went on a 15 game drought, and this year no goals and tonight is their 5th game.

    Also, shot volume seems to be mediocre, if he's going to shoot around 200 times and at his career avg of 8.8, looking at 18 goals..

    Just growing frustrated with the guy, had him last year and underperformed, and not doing much this year.

    Garland, Dvorak, Schmaltz, Hjalmarsson, Grabner, Stepan all have more goals, and he's not even leading the team in points lol.

    Sure, it's early but all last year he struggled to the tune of 47 pts.

    I had drafted MacK as a rookie, and signed him to 4 after that season and waited and waited after his poor 2nd season for bounce back, and moved him as my 2 year guy the year before he broke out.

    I cashed that year, so that was good but sucked seeing him get 90+ after.

    I'm not saying Keller is anything like MacK, other than similar rookie seasons, and fall off after, but just don't want to cut bait too soon. He's my 2 year guy right now, but I'm talking trade wise as there is still interest.
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    I cut bait. But my league counts hits and blks which makes him essentially useless while he continues to underachieve offensively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanablast21 View Post
    I cut bait. But my league counts hits and blks which makes him essentially useless while he continues to underachieve offensively.
    No peripherals in my league, but my format is goal heavy, and he's just been very underwhelming since his rookie season. I know Arizona is a wasteland, but surely he should have progressed some from Year 1 to 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by havanablast21 View Post
    I cut bait. But my league counts hits and blks which makes him essentially useless while he continues to underachieve offensively.
    Same. Swapped him out for Konecny and don’t plan to look back.
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    Ignore - wrong player - doh!
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    Keller 2 pp-apples last night

    on pace for 68pts and 27ppp and 205 SOG

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    Keller 2 pp-apples last night

    on pace for 68pts and 27ppp and 205 SOG

    the magic of early season.
    Haha exactly he's got 5 points now in 6 games. What are we expecting from him? He's a 3rd year player on just an OK team. I think 60+ points would be a good season as he still learns how to play in the league and Arizona starts improving. I would want to give him a little more rope certainly another couple seasons and hope the team gets better. Not to many players can thrive in a dumpster fire of a team and Arizona hasn't been great over well, ever. I think their finally getting there and have some weapons up front. Be patient but your expectations this year should be 60 not 80.
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    I just about made a massive overpay for him- lol! I switched it to just a run-of-the-mill overpay at the last second but the guy not happy with it. In his defense hes got a pretty amazing record of landing guys that "hit" and evolve into elite level assets.

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    1st Offer:
    Hoffman, Ghost, Terry, Elvis
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    Keller, Ekholm, MacElhenney, Carter, (B) Tracey, Keppen and a 1st.


    Offer 2:
    Ghost, Elvis, Terry, 7th
    For
    Keller, MacElhenney, Tracey, 1st


    So that one failed too and Ive started talks for a solid goaltender that centers around either Dubnyk OR Elvis with Terry involved so I threw one last can kicker offer- haha!

    Elvis, Terry, Weegar and a 7th
    For
    Keller, MacElhenney, Keppen and a 2nd


    With offer two declined its almost a certainty offer 3 will be but I figured Id try. I do like Keller but including Hoffman feels like way too much. Hoffmans name doesnt get a big reaction- it feels like his production doesnt line up properly with his trade value- lol! He was basically a Tarasenko last year- haha! Anyways- I like the kid but Im feeling like I dodged a bullet at the monster price I had sent to start things off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canucks_fan18 View Post
    Haha exactly he's got 5 points now in 6 games. What are we expecting from him? He's a 3rd year player on just an OK team. I think 60+ points would be a good season as he still learns how to play in the league and Arizona starts improving. I would want to give him a little more rope certainly another couple seasons and hope the team gets better. Not to many players can thrive in a dumpster fire of a team and Arizona hasn't been great over well, ever. I think their finally getting there and have some weapons up front. Be patient but your expectations this year should be 60 not 80.
    I think it was last week- he was 2nd in shot attempts as well...

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