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    Question Brand New Keeper Draft (Goals Worth Double) - Top Targets? REP Given!

    I'm in a brand new keeper (5 keepers, 2C,2LW,2RW,4D,2G,6 Bench).
    Scoring is G - 2, A - 1, W - 2, SO - 4.

    My initial thoughts are:
    1) goal scoring is massive (as is youth, to an extent)
    2) Dual position players are a serious advantage
    3) workhorse goalies on good defensive teams are nice to have
    4) pretty sure I'm going to draft defence last

    Here's my tentative list of my top 15 targets. Thoughts? Guys I need to slide up or down? Guys I'm missing? Thanks!


    • 1. Connor McDavid
    • 2. Nikita Kucherov
    • 3. Nathan MacKinnon
    • 4. Leon Draisaitl
    • 5. Auston Matthews
    • 6. David Pastrnak
    • 7. Mikko Rantanen
    • 8. Patrik Laine
    • 9. Johnny Gaudreau
    • 10. Jack Eichel
    • 11. John Tavares
    • 12. Alex Ovechkin
    • 13. Andrei Vasilevskiy
    • 14. Patrick Kane
    • 15. Brad Marchand

    Anyone who should be off this list, or on it? Am I underrating a Tarasenko, Huberdeau, DeBrincat, Hall, Guentzel or whoever?
    12 Team Keep 6: G/A:1 W/SO:2
    C - McDavid, Matthews, Schiefele
    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
    RW - ​​Marner, Barzal, Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
    G - Skinner
    B - Marchessault, Caufield, Teravainen, McCann, Montour, Jones, Saros

    12 Team Keep 10 (& 5 Minors)
    : G/A/OTL:1 W:2 SO:3
    '24 Picks (16 Rounds) - 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6
    F - ​McDavid, Rantanen, Point, Aho, Nylander, M. Tkachuk, Guentzel, MacKinnon, Pavelski, Duchene, Farabee, Henrique
    D - Bouchard, Dobson, Matheson, Andersson, Letang
    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
    M - Cooley, Michkov, Rossi, Hutson, Mateychuk

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    DeBrincat - yeah, with a 40g season under his belt and G's being worth 2.. he's a 120pt forward.

    I would try to target high shot volume forwards that offer good goal scoring with a solid G/A balance - Boeser/Connor as you get a bit deeper in your draft. Let someone else take pass first Gusev in this set up
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    I would disagree on some of your initial thoughts. I don't think youth is a huge deal in a keep 5. Duel eligible will be valuable later on (like mantha, hoffman, etc..) but don't overvalue guys early because of that. You should be looking at goalies on good teams, not defensive teams as GAA and sv% aren't counted (M Jones is an example of someone more valuable in this setup compared to regular leagues). Be careful not to wait too long for dmen.. you need to start 4 which is a lot.

    You are underrating Ovi and overrating Laine and Eichel IMO
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    Thanks for the help so far. I’m probably most torn on where to put Laine. Is he still the next OV?
    12 Team Keep 6: G/A:1 W/SO:2
    C - McDavid, Matthews, Schiefele
    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
    RW - ​​Marner, Barzal, Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
    G - Skinner
    B - Marchessault, Caufield, Teravainen, McCann, Montour, Jones, Saros

    12 Team Keep 10 (& 5 Minors)
    : G/A/OTL:1 W:2 SO:3
    '24 Picks (16 Rounds) - 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6
    F - ​McDavid, Rantanen, Point, Aho, Nylander, M. Tkachuk, Guentzel, MacKinnon, Pavelski, Duchene, Farabee, Henrique
    D - Bouchard, Dobson, Matheson, Andersson, Letang
    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
    M - Cooley, Michkov, Rossi, Hutson, Mateychuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svbetts View Post
    Thanks for the help so far. I’m probably most torn on where to put Laine. Is he still the next OV?
    Laine is far too high on your list. He is not going to be the next Ovechkin, barring some sort of change where he suddenly becomes both better and more consistent.

    Speaking of which, the actual Ovechkin is too low on your list:
    1. He's a wing - more premium position
    2. He's possibly the greatest goal-scoring talent ever.
    3. His most recent season under 30 goals was 2004-05. I give him a pass for that, as he wasn't in the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    Laine is far too high on your list. He is not going to be the next Ovechkin, barring some sort of change where he suddenly becomes both better and more consistent.

    Speaking of which, the actual Ovechkin is too low on your list:
    1. He's a wing - more premium position
    2. He's possibly the greatest goal-scoring talent ever.
    3. His most recent season under 30 goals was 2004-05. I give him a pass for that, as he wasn't in the league.
    Haha, fair enough! Love point #3. You're right, I think I need to move him up my list. I'm still not ready to drop Laine too far though. He's super young and a brutal year for him was still 30 goals.
    12 Team Keep 6: G/A:1 W/SO:2
    C - McDavid, Matthews, Schiefele
    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
    RW - ​​Marner, Barzal, Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
    G - Skinner
    B - Marchessault, Caufield, Teravainen, McCann, Montour, Jones, Saros

    12 Team Keep 10 (& 5 Minors)
    : G/A/OTL:1 W:2 SO:3
    '24 Picks (16 Rounds) - 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6
    F - ​McDavid, Rantanen, Point, Aho, Nylander, M. Tkachuk, Guentzel, MacKinnon, Pavelski, Duchene, Farabee, Henrique
    D - Bouchard, Dobson, Matheson, Andersson, Letang
    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
    M - Cooley, Michkov, Rossi, Hutson, Mateychuk

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    Any other thoughts anyone?
    12 Team Keep 6: G/A:1 W/SO:2
    C - McDavid, Matthews, Schiefele
    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
    RW - ​​Marner, Barzal, Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
    G - Skinner
    B - Marchessault, Caufield, Teravainen, McCann, Montour, Jones, Saros

    12 Team Keep 10 (& 5 Minors)
    : G/A/OTL:1 W:2 SO:3
    '24 Picks (16 Rounds) - 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6
    F - ​McDavid, Rantanen, Point, Aho, Nylander, M. Tkachuk, Guentzel, MacKinnon, Pavelski, Duchene, Farabee, Henrique
    D - Bouchard, Dobson, Matheson, Andersson, Letang
    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
    M - Cooley, Michkov, Rossi, Hutson, Mateychuk

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    Laine should not even be in the top 20 IMO , he could eventually put it together but still much better players, and dman who score should be a first or second round consideration

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    Thanks for this. So it seems like the forum has really soured on Laine, eh? Understandable, especially with him being a whiny brat right now. I was previously thinking 1st round for him, so I'll bump it down to 2nd or 3rd for sure. I still think he's an asset in a goal-centric league, but there are other more reliable options out there I'll go for first.

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    Laine should not even be in the top 20 IMO , he could eventually put it together but still much better players, and dman who score should be a first or second round consideration
    12 Team Keep 6: G/A:1 W/SO:2
    C - McDavid, Matthews, Schiefele
    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
    RW - ​​Marner, Barzal, Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
    G - Skinner
    B - Marchessault, Caufield, Teravainen, McCann, Montour, Jones, Saros

    12 Team Keep 10 (& 5 Minors)
    : G/A/OTL:1 W:2 SO:3
    '24 Picks (16 Rounds) - 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6
    F - ​McDavid, Rantanen, Point, Aho, Nylander, M. Tkachuk, Guentzel, MacKinnon, Pavelski, Duchene, Farabee, Henrique
    D - Bouchard, Dobson, Matheson, Andersson, Letang
    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
    M - Cooley, Michkov, Rossi, Hutson, Mateychuk

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    I think Laine certainly has potential. The thing is as with a few other Winnipeg Jets players is did they have career years in 2017-18 and that was it for them. The same could be said for Hellebuyk or a Nikolaj Ehlers. A player like Ovi consistently scores at a high volume year after year and age doesn't seem to bother him. Someone like Leon Draisaitl with the likes of McDavid dishing the puck to him should be high on the list. Steven Stamkos, Mackinnon, Debrincat, Point, Guentzel and Skinner should be high on the list as well.
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    Thanks! I’ll move these guys up.
    12 Team Keep 6: G/A:1 W/SO:2
    C - McDavid, Matthews, Schiefele
    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
    RW - ​​Marner, Barzal, Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
    G - Skinner
    B - Marchessault, Caufield, Teravainen, McCann, Montour, Jones, Saros

    12 Team Keep 10 (& 5 Minors)
    : G/A/OTL:1 W:2 SO:3
    '24 Picks (16 Rounds) - 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6
    F - ​McDavid, Rantanen, Point, Aho, Nylander, M. Tkachuk, Guentzel, MacKinnon, Pavelski, Duchene, Farabee, Henrique
    D - Bouchard, Dobson, Matheson, Andersson, Letang
    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
    M - Cooley, Michkov, Rossi, Hutson, Mateychuk

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