Friedman: "...Ongoing conversations between CAR and ANA about a Justin Faulk trade"

[Dennis]

Elliotte Friedman✔@FriedgeHNIC

Something to keep an eye on: there have been ongoing conversations between CAR and ANA about a Justin Faulk trade, but there are still details to be worked out (1/2)...

Faulk has a partial NTC — which lists the Ducks — and it is believed ANA wishes to pursue an extension. No one will comment on the likelihood of it occurring, but it has been intensely discussed

Sooo, trade away RHD depth and then buy back in? Great. There are also rumours of the Ducks pursuing a Laine trade floating around.

[evans334]

Wonder who would be going back the other way, Ondrej Kase?

[rataylor22]

Apparently the deal is agreed to pending Faulk's approval, and Kase is in the deal, which would be real good for Carolina.

[mounD]

If the Canes manage to sign Gardiner well below market value, and then dump Faulk for a guy like Ondrej Kase, then Tulsky deserves a raise ... maybe even a promotion.

[als_revenge]

Apparently the deal is agreed to pending Faulk's approval, and Kase is in the deal, which would be real good for Carolina.

I'd argue it would be a really good trade for Carolina.

[rataylor22]

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[Dennis]

Really good > real good

[hockeymanG23]

If the Canes manage to sign Gardiner well below market value, and then dump Faulk for a guy like Ondrej Kase, then Tulsky deserves a raise ... maybe even a promotion.

No doubt. This wouldn't be nearly as much of the heist Rask for Nino was but the Canes would still be walking away from the deal as the clear winners with his fingerprints all over it.

[mounD]

No doubt. This wouldn't be nearly as much of the heist Rask for Nino was but the Canes would still be walking away from the deal as the clear winners with his fingerprints all over it.

Saving $2 million in cap space while dumping a mediocre expiring UFA for a young, stud winger is pretty close to Rask-Nino levels, but not quite.

[tweetdrivr]

Saving $2 million in cap space while dumping a mediocre expiring UFA for a young, stud winger is pretty close to Rask-Nino levels, but not quite.

When did Faulk become medicocre? You’re pretty amped up to pump the Canes tires. They’ve made some moves that look good but haven’t played a single second of hockey yet this year...

[mounD]

When did Faulk become medicocre? You’re pretty amped up to pump the Canes tires. They’ve made some moves that look good but haven’t played a single second of hockey yet this year...

Faulk is a PP specialist who doesn't produce much on the PP, has moderate even strength impacts offensively, and is below average in shot suppression with poor defensive expected goals (xG) impacts. These numbers are taken from a three-year sample comparing Gardiner (on the left) and Faulk (on the right). These graphs measure a player's individual 5v5 impacts in various areas including: Goals For, Offensive xG, Offensive Corsi For; Defensive xG, and Defensive CorsiFor (shot suppression):

gardinerFaulk.png

As you can see, Faulk's actual Goals For production is pretty bad, combined with the fact that he's lackluster in the defensive impacts. Granted, his PP metrics look great despite the fact that he doesn't produce much with the man-advantage, but that's about it. Decent offensive contributions, PP metrics, and average production.

Ondrej Kase, on the other hand, looks like a player who is primed to blow up. Dominant metrics across the board, just needs to stay healthy. He will turn 24 years old early in the season, and he is locked in for 2 more seasons for $2.6 million AAV. This would be a slam dunk for the Canes.

KaseFaulk.png

[RizzeeDizzee]

When did Faulk become medicocre? You’re pretty amped up to pump the Canes tires. They’ve made some moves that look good but haven’t played a single second of hockey yet this year...

Faulk had the 10th most PP minutes of any d-man last season, yet only tied for 34th in defenseman scoring on the PP. Not good.

[mounD]

Faulk had the 10th most PP minutes of any d-man last season, yet only tied for 34th in defenseman scoring on the PP. Not good.

I didn't link the graph with Faulk's PP metrics, but he's kind of like Klefbom in that regard. He has very good shot and xG impacts with the man-advantage, but the production just isn't commensurate with what we would expect for the kind of minutes they get with their respective PP1 units.

[tweetdrivr]

Faulk had the 10th most PP minutes of any d-man last season, yet only tied for 34th in defenseman scoring on the PP. Not good.

Yes but how much PP1 time did he get? I haven’t looked at linemate numbers but I recall that Hamilton got a lot more top line mate PP mins. There was a real embarrassment of riches for the Canes blueline last year. Faulk is only 27 and was not top dog by any stretch. Maybe that’s a commentary on his ability or more his situation. Looking at the Dobber advanced chart for the Canes shows below average possession numbers but a decent level of quality of opposition. In comparison to Hamilton he did see better opponents and fewer O zone starts. I think the truth lies somewhere between mediocrity and super star. I would not call this potential trade a slam dunk by any means. It could be good hockey trade and benefit both teams. But if I’m Faulk I don’t approve it. The Ducks have serious dumpster fire potential. Eakins’ first head coaching job did not end well.

[RizzeeDizzee]

Yes but how much PP1 time did he get?

By the looks of it, he got a ton, as 85.7% of his PP minutes consisted of him being the only defensemen on the ice, which I believe correlates to PP1 since Carolina used 4F on its top unit nearly all season.