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    Trying to decide which goalie to keep. My other goalie is Holtby. I want to keep 2 in this league (similar settings to signature).

    Am I crazy to think that Grubauer might be my keeper over Dubnyk? I think Colorado has the stronger team plus they usually have a better off night schedule than Minnesota which will give me a few extra starts.

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    I don't think you're crazy at all. If Colorado has the better off night schedule for you, it makes sense. I'd consider them basically in the same tier, so that sort of difference matters.
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    I personally like Grubauer better and would want him as my #2 goalie.
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    Grubauer over Dubnyk


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    Default Re: Grubauer or Dubnyk

    Dubnyk for me. Grubauer has not proven he can be a starter for a whole season. Just because he plays for COL, which is supposed to be a good team, doesn't mean he'll be better than Dubnyk.
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    Although I see lots of good reasons to take Grubauer, I would probably chicken out and take Dubnyk myself. I just haven't seen enough of Grubauer to say definitively what he is. He hasn't played more than 37 games in an regular season and that's a big red flag for me - I want to see a good 55 games from him. We have seen young new starters on up and coming teams fall flat before. I'll take the boring pick with Dubnyk. If you like to gamble, the upside is definitely there with Grubauer. It's all about how much risk you want to take. Other factors to consider: which player do you have a better shot of getting back in the draft; who would you be more angry at not keeping if they had a good year; if Grubauer is your pick, what goalies expected to be available can fit into your lineup on off nights.

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    Grubauer for me but that’s my gambler’s side!

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    I think you go high risk/high reward here.... and go with Grubauer.
    If your team is REALLY, REALLY strong though - and you just want a sure thing (with no upside) - then Dubnyk is the pick.

    It's all about team direction.
    Usually "high end" player stats win championships, which is why most will say to go with Grubauer... potential there with the Avs is sky-high.
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    6.5 points for a win

    .25 for a save -2.5 for a GA? That seems like a scoring that values quantity over quality for starters. Dubnyk is among the top-5 every year in saves. He's also respectable in the Ws category, although that will continue to decline this year I suspect.

    Dubnyk is basically a lock for 60 starts (could be 65) whereas Grubauer has never topped 40 (37 max last season) so 55 would be a massive number.

    I don't see Grubauer's better Win number overcoming 10 more starts from Dubnyk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawMan View Post
    6.5 points for a win

    .25 for a save -2.5 for a GA? That seems like a scoring that values quantity over quality for starters. Dubnyk is among the top-5 every year in saves. He's also respectable in the Ws category, although that will continue to decline this year I suspect.

    Dubnyk is basically a lock for 60 starts (could be 65) whereas Grubauer has never topped 40 (37 max last season) so 55 would be a massive number.

    I don't see Grubauer's better Win number overcoming 10 more starts from Dubnyk.
    This scoring favors quality just as much as quantity... Maybe more:

    -2.5 for GA hurts a ton. 10 shots on goal is required to wipe out a GA. So many nights a goalie sieves a 4-spot on 30 shots. If they lose the game too, that's -2.5 goalie points for you. UGH. I wonder if benching goalies is a legal strategy, lol.

    That said, with Grub's question marks on ability to play a full season, but playing for the team that should have more wins... I pick Grubauer. If he's too bad to play a full season, that helps reduce the number of negative stats from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhonny View Post
    This scoring favors quality just as much as quantity... Maybe more:

    -2.5 for GA hurts a ton. 10 shots on goal is required to wipe out a GA. So many nights a goalie sieves a 4-spot on 30 shots. If they lose the game too, that's -2.5 goalie points for you. UGH. I wonder if benching goalies is a legal strategy, lol.

    That said, with Grub's question marks on ability to play a full season, but playing for the team that should have more wins... I pick Grubauer. If he's too bad to play a full season, that helps reduce the number of negative stats from him.
    Yeah you're right I read it as .5 points for a sv. That changes Everything. Given that I'm chasing Ws over saves. I like Grubauer a lot more here..
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