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    Default Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    I'm trying to decide between Turcotte and Caufield. Points only, keeper league, we protect 12 plus a farm of 4. Some people have written about Caufield as if he is a swing for the home run, whereas Turcotte is considered the safer play. I rarely pick this high, my team is competitive, so I don't want to botch this one (the pick is mine via trade). Is there that much risk/reward with Caufield? Or is Turcotte's ceiling close anyways? No preference in this league for goals, either, and forward positions don't matter. Thoughts?
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    The way I see it the "risk" factor with Caufield is overblown. People talked a bit about some risk factor and how he might slide down the draft and it takes on a life of its own. That said I would definitely go with Turcotte over Caufield. Safe does not mean less upside.


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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    Turcotte is drafting hugher than Caufield so if you have a choice take Turcotte.




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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    Both are going to get you points but overall, Turcotte is the better pick in my opinion. I believe Caufield slipped mainly due to his size but that's about it, I think. Turcotte may be the safer pick but in this case, the safe pick will get you the better player also.
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    I don't think Caufield is particularly "risky," but I would say that Turcotte is a safer bet even in points-only. The dynasty league in my signature just started its draft today, and I had the 4th pick. The guy before me took Caufield, and I was incredibly surprised and overjoyed to get Turcotte in that slot.
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    I took Caufield 3rd overall in one of my leagues, but goals are worth twice as much as an assist. I don't think there's much risk with Caufield, but there's still a little more than there is with Turcotte.
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    If you draft Caufield over Turcotte, youre going to make the guy after you very happy by leaving Turcotte for him. Turcotte for me.
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    I guess theres less risk if you draft turcotte but I can appreciate the love for caufield too .

    caufield went immediately after turcotte in 2 of my 3 dynasty leagues and its a goal heavy format.

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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    He's apparently around the same size as DeBrincat, who is doing just fine, but I can't help but think there's a reason why there are so few guys his height that go on to successful NHL careers. He might take longer to be NHL ready too as he might need to bulk up..guys like Yamamoto and Bracco are still marinating, and Gaudreau took quite a few years post-draft too. Nothing to say they won;t all turn out great either, but it's a longer wait.

    In terms of "how much risk", well...there's more risk with him than there is with Turcotte. If he can take what he's done so far to the next level you'll be kicking yourself, sure, but there's a reason he went 15th vs 5th, and it's the same reason you should probably go with Turcotte here.
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    I wouldn't worry much about the risk of Caufield as much as the risk of passing on Turcotte.

    I wouldn't be surprised if in 3-4 years we look back at this draft and we compare Dach - Turcotte to Strome - Marner and argue who should have gone #3.

    several teams will regret passing on Caufield. LA won't be one of them.
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    Would you guys take Caufield over Turcotte in a league where you get 4 points a goal and 2.5 for an assist and 0.2 for a SOG/HIT/BLK plus 0.5 a PM? Went into my draft with Zegras as my target but been a surprise pick infront of me so 1 of Turcotte or Caufield should be available, just not sure who to take if both are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNYUPS View Post
    Would you guys take Caufield over Turcotte in a league where you get 4 points a goal and 2.5 for an assist and 0.2 for a SOG/HIT/BLK plus 0.5 a PM? Went into my draft with Zegras as my target but been a surprise pick infront of me so 1 of Turcotte or Caufield should be available, just not sure who to take if both are.
    I think with Goals having that much of a bonus (over 1.5x value of assists) I would go with Caufield.
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    If goals are worth 4 points, yes, I would take Caufield. Considered as the best goal scorer in the draft, it's almost as if he's meant for that kind of setup.
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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    Damn I hope the guy picking infront of me just makes the decision for me.

    EDIT- well he made the decision for me and took caufield so I got Turcotte. Oh well can’t lose here.

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    Default Re: Caufield: How much risk IS there, really?

    Im gonna read the comments after.

    Heres the thing- Id take Caufield probably...

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    if goals dont matter that kind of changes things. Its hard to wrap my head around leagues like that. Debrincat is just a 76 point player. Compile the other facts that Turcotte gets faded because hes a C which also doesnt matter and that you dont want to eff this up? I think this is a rare case where I take Turcotte. There is some risk with Caufield but the payoff in most leagues is exponential because goals, sogs and all the cats that go along with that type of player are all skewed to the good. In your league 70 points is 70 points. I think Turcotte is safer and based on the returns Id go for him. Now Im gonna go back and read what everyone else said...

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