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    Thinking of doing my J Hughes (J'Accuse) for Carter Hart. League in sig. Pushed my chips all-in and have a three year window where I feel I'll be a contender right now. Who helps me raise those banners in the next 3 years more?

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    C: Scheifele, Stamkos (rw), Tavares
    LW: Gaudreau, Giroux (c/rw), Labanc(rw)
    RW: Atkinson, Thompson (c), Keller (lw), Glendening (c)
    D: Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Dumba, Krug (50%), Trouba, McNabb, Gudas
    G: Holtby, Fleury, Markstrom


    FARM NOTABLES:
    F: Bokk, A Thomas, Kaprizov, Dorofeyev, Mikheyev
    D: Dalhin, Beaudin, Dunn, Kylington, Harley
    G: Hart, Demko

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    If you believe that Hart is going to be “the guy” for the Flyers then in your set up this is a fair trade. Depending on how many goalies you can start at one time, having three goalies makes your team ultra competitive. You do need to ask yourself, “is there another way?”

    Is there a trade to be had for another goalie using one of your roster players as a chip? Is there a Gaudreau for Price trade to be had? A Giroux for Grubauer?

    Jack Hughes is incredibly valuable as he has three years left on that ELC. In a cap league the flexibility that offers your squad is huge.
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    How many goalies can you start? You have a couple pretty decent options in Holtby/Fleury. Not sure I'd be in a rush to trade for another unless you can start all three. What New Jersey is doing is pretty cool, and Hughes is going to have a lot of talent around him.

    Hart is definitely a top option, but who knows man, ****ing goalies.
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    The fact that both are on ELC's helps.

    I googled "GPT10 fantasy hockey" and it goes to a Dobber thread - LOL. Based on that, I think that I'm not loving Hart, because I think the Flyers' offseason moves make them about the same. I don't trust Fletcher much, if at all.

    Hayes is an upgrade, but expensive. The domino effect may hurt Patrick's development. The defense moves I view as likely neutral, as I think Gudas > Niskanen at this point, and MacDonald = Braun = random 7th defenseman stiff.

    I have a feelign that deal would be there early in the year, but you'd get to see what the Flyers look like with Hart, so I'd decline, but leave it as something to revisit.
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    I like the deal for you, generally, but it depends how much impact you would be getting from a third goalie vs. an extra C/W with Hughes. It's a pretty fair swap in terms of value, but I would want something extra as a sweetener due to Hughes having the extra ELC year. That is very important.
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    GPT10 is a fantrax stat. Essentially a win is 1 point and a shutout is 3.


    14 Team H2H Cap
    G A DPTS FOW SOG STP H+B | W SV SV% GAA

    C: Scheifele, Stamkos (rw), Tavares
    LW: Gaudreau, Giroux (c/rw), Labanc(rw)
    RW: Atkinson, Thompson (c), Keller (lw), Glendening (c)
    D: Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Dumba, Krug (50%), Trouba, McNabb, Gudas
    G: Holtby, Fleury, Markstrom


    FARM NOTABLES:
    F: Bokk, A Thomas, Kaprizov, Dorofeyev, Mikheyev
    D: Dalhin, Beaudin, Dunn, Kylington, Harley
    G: Hart, Demko

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    We start 2 goalies per night. Players with less than 165gp and goalies with less than 100 to start the season are farm eligible for the year and can be streamed up and down.


    14 Team H2H Cap
    G A DPTS FOW SOG STP H+B | W SV SV% GAA

    C: Scheifele, Stamkos (rw), Tavares
    LW: Gaudreau, Giroux (c/rw), Labanc(rw)
    RW: Atkinson, Thompson (c), Keller (lw), Glendening (c)
    D: Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Dumba, Krug (50%), Trouba, McNabb, Gudas
    G: Holtby, Fleury, Markstrom


    FARM NOTABLES:
    F: Bokk, A Thomas, Kaprizov, Dorofeyev, Mikheyev
    D: Dalhin, Beaudin, Dunn, Kylington, Harley
    G: Hart, Demko

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    Goalies are a complete headache.. I would be keeping the calder winner Jack Hughes!!
    Unless this GM steps up and knocks your socks off, I would hold tight!!
    You already have Holtby and Fleury.. And Shesterkin in the wings too!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMario View Post
    We start 2 goalies per night. Players with less than 165gp and goalies with less than 100 to start the season are farm eligible for the year and can be streamed up and down.
    You'll likely have control over Hughes for longer then. You'll get at least two full seasons + 1 game, whereas Hart will likely be around 80-85 GP after this season alone -- assuming 50-55 starts. I still think asking for a plus would be a good idea here.
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    LW: Marchand, Landeskog, Hertl, Marchessault
    RW: Stamkos, Tarasenko, Laine, Palmieri
    D: Carlson, Letang, Dumba, Weber, Pietrangelo, Ristolainen, Byfuglien*
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    Keep Hughes... Seems like a good/fair deal/idea until Hart realizes he's 21 and plays like it for half a season. Even Price was horrible for a full season.
    The impact of a bad year from an elite player is less than a bad year from an elite G on a Fantasy team.

    You're also giving up 82 games for 45. Hart won't get a full workload this year.
    when you account for off nights. Are you starting him over Holtby or MAF?
    Likely Wsh-Phi have a very similar schedule, very few off nights of each other.
    Odds are you'll have a 3G conflict for 20-25 of Hart's starts.

    So now, is he worth 82gp of Hughes for 20-25 starts?
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    Follow up question... how many of those starts - will be quality starts?
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    This is why I love this community. Thanks for talking me off the ledge.


    14 Team H2H Cap
    G A DPTS FOW SOG STP H+B | W SV SV% GAA

    C: Scheifele, Stamkos (rw), Tavares
    LW: Gaudreau, Giroux (c/rw), Labanc(rw)
    RW: Atkinson, Thompson (c), Keller (lw), Glendening (c)
    D: Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Dumba, Krug (50%), Trouba, McNabb, Gudas
    G: Holtby, Fleury, Markstrom


    FARM NOTABLES:
    F: Bokk, A Thomas, Kaprizov, Dorofeyev, Mikheyev
    D: Dalhin, Beaudin, Dunn, Kylington, Harley
    G: Hart, Demko

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