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    Yes, but the Rangers have something like $17 million in cap space for next year even when including Shattenkirk's buyout cap hit. Buying out the others still would have brought something like a $3 million cap hit next year.

    They now have a whole year to deal with 2020-21, when there is probably a lockout anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    yes, I am aware of the #s. I saw that tweet too.

    To be fair, he didnt have a lot of quality to compete with in NY. Just because he was a good Dman in NY doesn;t mean he's a good Dman and it doesnt mean he'll be effective in Edmonton.
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    Gee, thanks Tips. You're a wealth of knowledge today.

    I still dont like him much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mounD View Post
    I didn't necessarily mean it was likely, just that they could use any halfway competent D they can find for cheap.
    Even on Oilers, Shatt would slot in as a 5-6 Dman and the Oilers have a bunch of prospects knocking on the door for those 5,6,7 D spots right now. All of them likely to be cheaper than Shatt.

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    He's still be a #1 or #2 on Vancouver. A top 4 on Anaheim... too bad he doesn't want to leave the East Coast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lobo1969 View Post
    Even on Oilers, Shatt would slot in as a 5-6 Dman and the Oilers have a bunch of prospects knocking on the door for those 5,6,7 D spots right now. All of them likely to be cheaper than Shatt.
    They dont gave the cap space so it's a moot point even if he wanted to go to the Oilers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lobo1969 View Post
    Even on Oilers, Shatt would slot in as a 5-6 Dman and the Oilers have a bunch of prospects knocking on the door for those 5,6,7 D spots right now. All of them likely to be cheaper than Shatt.
    It’s important to consider that he’s a RHD. He becomes their #2 right handed guy were they to sign him to a low risk contract. Heck he may even end up being their #1 RHD when it comes to skill/puck moving...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweetdrivr View Post
    https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1805650
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    If he's up for going out west, I do kinda like Colorado as an option on a 1-year deal or something.
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    Axe is so scarred by the Oilers defensive play over the last decade he’s gone delirious.

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    I'm not scared or delirious. They don't need Shattenkirk. What they do need is Klefbom to stay healthy. Hes just as good, if not better than Shattenkirk. What they do need is space for one of Persson (who might also be as good as Shattenkirk) or Jones to come up and show they are ready. What they do need is to wisely use what little cap space they have left to get a good 3C (a much bigger need than Shattenkirk). What they do need is for Puljujarvi to sign and show up or go to Europe. He still needs a contract too btw.

    There's a lot more things the Oilers need than Shattenkirk. I can't remember who wrote The Score article shared earlier but clearly he isn't looking at the Oilers as a whole and seeing they have more than enough capable D vs Shatty and they have greater needs to spend their cap on.

    If Shattenkirk was as good as many of you think, the Rangers wouldnt be buying him out. There were other buyout options they could have gone with but they went this way. Yes, his contract was the best savings for them, but if he was as good as many think, they wouidnt be worried about that. Everyone sees him as a PP specialist but in all honesty, analytically speaking, that is when he was at his worst in NY. If any of you follow Sean Tierney (@ChartingHockey) on Twitter, he said it best when he said to me, he might be worth a shot for some teams, just don't let him run your PP.

    If Shattenkirk was a 3C, then he makes sense. He isn't. Eyes wide open when it comes to their roster and cap situation.

    He'll find a home but I'd rather it not be Edmonton.
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    Kevin Shattenkirk: decent impacts at even strength, decent on the PP. I still think he's a useful player for someone, but I agree with Axe I don't see him running a PP1 anywhere.

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    The Rangers went with the crapy cheaper options. So I guess much like the Oilers. The analytics bear out that he was the most effective of the “vulnerable” D in NY. But he made more $$. Next year it’s a harder pill to swallow cap hit wise but overal and this year in particular it’s the best option. If the Oilers need a #3 center tell Holland to talk to Bergevin. We’ve got about 40 of them kicking around. I agree Shattenkirk will end up somewhere. And Pulljarvi has said he’s not playing for the Oilers so I don’t think he’ll sign and show up. Particularly with the cap issues they have. Why would they waste $$ on him when he does not want to be there and, as you say, they need a #3 center. I’d think if they had decent wingers their Cs would be McDavid, Draisatl, and RNH. That’s pretty damn solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    To be fair, hes really not that great of an actual Dman. Good fantasy Dman at one point but as far as his actual play goes, hes never really been much more than a decent 3/4 at best who was good on the PP. Hes a RHD PP guy. He surely wasn't worth the money the Rangers gave him.

    I can see someone taking a shot at him for $3-4M on a 2 yr deal.
    The only one who’s called him a PP specialist is you Axe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    As I mentioned earlier, he wont be going to Edmonton. They dont have the cap space for him (hes not going to sign a league minimum deal) and whether they need him or not, they need a 3C more than a RHD PP specialist who really isnt much more than that. That and they still have to re-sign Puljujarvi.

    Unless Ken Holland has a lot more moves up his sleeve, do not expect Shattenkirk to end up in Edmonton.
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    I am not sure his PP effectiveness outweighs his own end deficiencies so to call him halfway competent may be a reach for me.
    Page 3 - Shattenkirk is just a PP specialist and not more than that

    Page 4 - Don’t let Shattenkirk run your PP he’s bad at it.

    Lol.

    In four pages, there is only one poster who has called Shattenkirk a PP specialist. One other poster mentioned they hope he can find PP1 time elsewhere, but there is only one person who actually called him a PP specialist. It just coincidentally happened to be the person who said “everyone sees him as a PP specialist but he’s not”. One person is everyone apparently.

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