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    Need help evaluating a trade offer I've been considering. 8 man Dynasty league

    I have another 2nd round (pick 10) and the 2nd Overall (Kakko) - I like the trade but Idk if this makes him better and me only marginally better. I'm giving up some vital guys. Huge emphasis on youth and peripherals/D men and Goalies in this league. Though Werenski I see as really good but just a point producing defenseman. Not much else outside points, SOG and PPP. Ziba I really like in that he hits almost every stat.
    Is this trade even necessary for me in the first place? I've been in rebuild for years and this year I'm hoping to try and contend. I like Ziba a lot too and my hesitation is
    I'm hoping for him to explode next to Panarin. Let me know your guys thoughts!

    Trade Offer:
    My Zibanejad + Werenski, + 2nd rounder (pick 15 ) for his 1st rounder (3rd Overall) + E. Kane + Tyler Bertuzzi

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    ***16 Team (8 Main/8 Minor) 23 man rosters - H2H Cats (G A PTS +/- PPP SOG HITS BKS - W SV GAA SV% SHO)***

    MAIN F: S. Stamkos, B. Marchand, C. Giroux, A. Matthews, M. Zibanejad, M. Tkachuk, A. Radulov, N. Hischier, J. Skinner, N. Ehers, R. Johansen,
    C. Keller, N. Niederreiter, B. Schenn
    MAIN D:M. Rielly, Z. Werenski, T. Chabot, A. Ekblad, R. Pulock, S. Theodore, J. Muzzin, C. McAvoy
    MAIN G: B. Bishop, S. Bobrovsky, P. Rinne

    FARM (F): B. Tkachuk, S. Steel, J. Ho-Sang, M. Lucic, C. Perry, O. Tippett, T. Toffoli, T. Wilson, J. Anderson, R. Fabbri
    FARM (D): J. Faulk, K. Shattenkirk, D. Cholowski, E. Bouchard, J. Manson
    FARM (G): P. Grubauer, R. Lehner
    8 Person H2H Dynasty League (8 Main Teams 8 Minor Teams)
    Scoring Cats: G, A, PTS, +/-, TOI, HITS, BLKS, STP, W, L, SV, SO, GAA, SV%, GW%

    Main Team:
    F: Barkov, Matthews, Meier, Stamkos, Zibanejad, Ehlers, Rantanen, Fiala, Giroux, Kuznetsov, JT Miller, Duchene, Pavelski, B. Tkachuk, Wilson, Keller, Hischier, Jeff Skinner
    D: Chabot, Morgan Reilly, Ekblad, Hamilton, Provorov, Bouchard
    G: Bobrovsky, Grubauer, Husso

    Minor Team:
    F: Leo Carlsson, Backstrom, Domi, Compher, Gourde, Granlund, Jenner, Caufield, Krebs, Raddysh, M. Kasper, Coronato, Bourque
    D: Drysdale, Edvinsson, Chiarot, Krug, M. Anderson, Dumba, York, Harley, Martinez
    G: Lehner, Cossa, A. Schmid, Tarasov

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    I wouldn't personally give up ziba for the third kane and bertuzzi let alone the rest unless you think Byram or Turcotte is going to live up to all the hype. Even if you disagree hard to argue that

    Ziba > Kane & Bert Werenki and a 2nd >>>3rd overall

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjm44 View Post
    I wouldn't personally give up ziba for the third kane and bertuzzi let alone the rest unless you think Byram or Turcotte is going to live up to all the hype. Even if you disagree hard to argue that

    Ziba > Kane & Bert Werenki and a 2nd >>>3rd overall

    my 2 cents
    I hear you. I think Ziba is personally better than those guys individually. But collectively, that return plus a Byram could help round out my team. I just dont know if its necessarily the right move to win. Kakko and Byram on my team could help loads. But is it super essential? Idk. I do like both guys a lot. And I need a Shark/Red Wing - who also have a floor of around 50/60 with hits and Kane as a high volume shooter.

    I just wanted to hear what peoples thoughts were and see if they'd pull the trigger on this or wait? Thanks for the insight though.
    8 Person H2H Dynasty League (8 Main Teams 8 Minor Teams)
    Scoring Cats: G, A, PTS, +/-, TOI, HITS, BLKS, STP, W, L, SV, SO, GAA, SV%, GW%

    Main Team:
    F: Barkov, Matthews, Meier, Stamkos, Zibanejad, Ehlers, Rantanen, Fiala, Giroux, Kuznetsov, JT Miller, Duchene, Pavelski, B. Tkachuk, Wilson, Keller, Hischier, Jeff Skinner
    D: Chabot, Morgan Reilly, Ekblad, Hamilton, Provorov, Bouchard
    G: Bobrovsky, Grubauer, Husso

    Minor Team:
    F: Leo Carlsson, Backstrom, Domi, Compher, Gourde, Granlund, Jenner, Caufield, Krebs, Raddysh, M. Kasper, Coronato, Bourque
    D: Drysdale, Edvinsson, Chiarot, Krug, M. Anderson, Dumba, York, Harley, Martinez
    G: Lehner, Cossa, A. Schmid, Tarasov

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    Zibanejad + Werenski >> E. Kane + Turcotte/Byram

    2nd rounder < Bert, but it's not enough of a kicker to make up for the above. Pretty easy pass for me.
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    C: Bergeron, Barkov, Aho, Point, Kadri
    LW: Marchand, Landeskog, Hertl, Marchessault
    RW: Stamkos, Tarasenko, Laine, Palmieri
    D: Carlson, Letang, Dumba, Weber, Pietrangelo, Ristolainen, Byfuglien*
    G: Bobrovsky, Holtby, Lehner, Greiss-Varlamov

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    Quote Originally Posted by mounD View Post
    Zibanejad + Werenski >> E. Kane + Turcotte/Byram

    2nd rounder < Bert, but it's not enough of a kicker to make up for the above. Pretty easy pass for me.
    agree with this
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    Easy pass for me.

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    I wouldn't make this trade if you were holding my loved ones captive in a warehouse.
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    Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
    D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
    Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10


    Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
    Captain: Matthews
    (F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
    (D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun,
    Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
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    Doooon’t do it! You know you’re going to get good production from Zib and Werenski. Take the sure thing.

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    I wouldn't give up Zibby and Zach!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mounD View Post
    Zibanejad + Werenski >> E. Kane + Turcotte/Byram

    2nd rounder < Bert, but it's not enough of a kicker to make up for the above. Pretty easy pass for me.
    This is how I see it too.

    Bottleneckers (12/16 in 2022)
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    Top 9F, 4D & 1G . Keep 15, Max 23
    F: J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Tavares, Lafreniere, Cozens, Newhook, Teravainen, Domi, R. Strome, Laine, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti
    D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
    G: Vasilevskiy



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    Put it this way, Zibs got 70+ points playing on a depleted NYR squad. He now has Panarin, Kaako and Trouba...

    Don't do it!!!
    11 team keeper league with salary cap (points only)

    MY TEAM (start 13F, 6D, 1G):
    FWDS: N. Kucherov, S. Stamkos, R. O’Reilly, J. Hughes, W. Karlsson, P. Kessel, B. Point, F. Vatrano, E. Pettersen, R. Rakell, C. Keller, N. Niederreiter, K. Labanc

    DEF: J. Trouba, J. Morrissey, T. Krug, F. Hronek, S. Jones, D. Nurse
    GOALIE: A. Vasilevskiy
    BENCH: V. Mete, S. Niku, R. Andersson, T. Hirose, C. Glass, T. Jurco, C. McElhinney
    NOTES: We can only send players down if they get injured, otherwise they pass through waivers and we lose them for nothing + we have to pay half their cap.

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