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    I have the current offer on the table. I have been mulling on it for a while. I’m hesitating because I’m wondering if Mcavoy will become a good offensive dman. I do need to make room under the cap.

    My Burns for McAvoy + 2 of the following prospects: Nick Suzuki, Jason Robertson, Conor Timmins, Joel Farabee, G. Denisenko.

    Is this something I should pursue?

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    In a cap league... having to make room - which likely means selling salary for cheap - for Burns while giving up a soon to be 50pt dman + two top prospects
    I'll pass.
    I'd spend the diff. between McAvoy's contract & Burns' on other value adds instead.
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    Curious if a similar package is available for Karlsson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    Curious if a similar package is available for Karlsson.
    Karlsson would be even more cap than Burns though.

    Really I like the first deal assuming you have someone you can part with to make the room. I don't see McAvoy as a 50pt Dman, even though he's going to get paid. So his value is going to drop in cap leagues methinks.
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    I don't mind at all the idea of dealing Burns to save cap space, but considering this is a points-only league, McAvoy doesn't really have that much value (nor upside). I just don't see McAvoy getting more than 40-45 pts. Burns, as everyone knows, has a 65 pt floor and an 80 pt ceiling.

    I'd only ever considering dealing Burns for a young dman with high offensive upside, like Jones, Rielly, Chabot, Dahlin, Makar...and even then for most of those players I'd be looking to get some other assets heading my way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    Karlsson would be even more cap than Burns though.
    Hence why I'd wonder if that's a possibility. He has to trim cap. Shaving Karlsson's 11M for 70 points makes more sense than Burns' 8M for 60 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    Hence why I'd wonder if that's a possibility. He has to trim cap. Shaving Karlsson's 11M for 70 points makes more sense than Burns' 8M for 60 points.
    My bad, I thought he was trying to acquire Burns, but would have to shed cap to do so.
    In this case, I'm with you that sending out Karlsson instead of Burns would make sense. I stand by what I said about McAvoy, so I don't think he makes sense as a target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    Hence why I'd wonder if that's a possibility. He has to trim cap. Shaving Karlsson's 11M for 70 points makes more sense than Burns' 8M for 60 points.
    I initially didn't quite understand why you brought up Karlsson, but now that I see he is also listed in the OP's signature, I am all for shedding Karlsson over Burns, all things being equal (which they aren't). I suspect because of the higher salary, injury concerns, and the season he just had, Karlsson's value isn't very high in a league like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    My bad, I thought he was trying to acquire Burns, but would have to shed cap to do so.
    In this case, I'm with you that sending out Karlsson instead of Burns would make sense. I stand by what I said about McAvoy, so I don't think he makes sense as a target.
    I'm with you on McAvoy, although the Bruins' cap situation may necessitate a bridge deal that keeps McAvoy as reasonable. Most interested in the potential of some of the forwards under discussion here. Being able to trim some heavy cap for a player in the 30-year-old+ range for some high end forward prospects is a good way to stay healthy cap-wise for a long time.
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    Yes I’m the one owning Burns currently.

    That package is not available for EK.

    I can deal him in season and pay half the salary to a contender. I will have a lot more than I would today.

    As far as the prospects goes, which 2 would you pick?

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    I really like Farabee and Denisenko, but I'm probably not doing this deal if you're shipping out Burns.
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    Like the others have said, I think I would rather ship out Karlsson if that's a possibility for a similar type package. I love McAvoy, but I'm not really sold on his upside in points-only leagues. I'm thinking 50 is probably around the upper limit for him, and he is going to get paid sooner or later. Realistically you could be shipping out 25+ points and only saving a million or two in the end.

    If you're determined to make a deal along these lines, I think Suzuki and Farabee are the prospects I would choose; however, I think dumping Karlsson (even for a lesser return) would probably be a smarter move, as you'd have a lot more cap space to mess around with.
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    Thanks for the advice. I may be able to pull a side deal that would get me Q. Hughes for Mcavoy +.

    Before that I need to make a decision on the following forwards. can you rank them for pts only ?

    Nick Suzuki, Jason Robertson, Conor Timmins, Joel Farabee, G. Denisenko. , Dillon Dube is also in the mix.

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    Denisenko
    Farabee
    Robertson
    Suzuki
    Dube
    Timmins

    If you factor in wait time that might bump Denisenko down a rung.
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