[TRADE] Hawks send Jokiharju to Buffalo for Alex Nylander

[PenguinHunter]

Projecting Alex Nylander for the Hawks top-six in the near future is incredibly optimistic, even with their current roster. Gotta believe he's behind at least Sikura and Shaw (and maybe Perlini) for opportunities, perhaps even Dach depending on how much the Hawks like him. Nylander only has 30 goals in 165 AHL games to date and he's barely over .5 points per game in three pro seasons.

Is this a move looking towards expansion? But even so...you think they would be able to get a better return in a forward prospect.

[finnys_fanatsy]

WTF>>>i pop open Dobber and this is here!

[als_revenge]

Maybe Stan confused Alex with William...

Of course now Alex will pull a Dylan Strome on me...

[mounD]

Maybe Stan confused Alex with William...

Of course now Alex will pull a Dylan Strome on me...

Dylan Strome actually produced in the AHL though ...

[The Guvnah]

I heard about this trade on the radio driving home and immediately went "WTF!" I thought Jokiharju showed a lot of promise and Nylander shows... what, exactly?

[Daydream Nation]

IMO Jokiharju has been overrated for a while. He had a splashy first couple weeks of the season last year when Q gave him a lot of minutes and then showed a lot of growing pains as the season progressed. I still thought he should have been on track for a spot this season in Chicago but that was more of a testament to how bad Seabrook is. Over the last couple days I have spent some time on Evolving Hockey looking at the fancy stats (the site keeps crashing on me) to see how bad Seabrook is and I kept noticing that Jokiharju showing up at the bottom of the ratings for Hawks' dmen last season. Seabrook, Forsling, and Jokiharju were easily the Hawks worst defensemen last season. And it was reported by a reputable source that the Hawks didn't feel Joker had any elite upside in any area and that he would his ceiling was a 2nd pairing dman. Now it sounds like the Hawks should have gotten more than Nylander but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's not as bad of a trade as a lot of people are making out.

[2014olympicgold]

In a daring bold move the Buffalo Sabres are looking to have their D play F and vice versa

Dahlin-Montour-Risto
Pilut-Miller-Jokiharju
McCabe-Bogosian-Nelson
Scandella-Hunwick-Borgen

Skinner-Eichel
Olofsson-Reinhart
Mittelstadt-Johansson
Vesey

[ericdaoust]

Sabres players can't figure out why their D coach keeps doing faceoff drills

[agentzero]

Vesey in net. I like it lol.

This trade doesn’t appear very good. I mean, gamble on a forward’s upside fine, but you really have to think Jokiharju is gonna tank to pull a move like this. A Nylander is literally at the bottom of the barrel, that I feel like they could have moved a middling AHLer for him.

His comment coming out of Buffalo though, on the Hawks:

“Good at developing players, actually know what they’re doing.”

Ouch lol.

[2014olympicgold]

Chicago did turn Strome from a 27pt/82game player to a 72pt/82game player so hopefully they can turn Nylander around. But clearly they've been shopping their D for forwards and no one wanted the Keith or Seabrook's contracts. However, Jok could have gotten them more, or should have.

Stan Bowman has failed the last few yrs.

[Axeman33]

https://twitter.com/scottiekrinch/st...931219970?s=19

Stan Bowman has now traded every one of his 1st round picks from 2011-2017:

Mark McNeill
Phillip Danault
Teuvo Teravainen
Ryan Hartman
Nick Schmaltz
Henri Jokiharju

[PenguinHunter]

https://twitter.com/scottiekrinch/st...931219970?s=19

Stan Bowman has now traded every one of his 1st round picks from 2011-2017:

Mark McNeill
Phillip Danault
Teuvo Teravainen
Ryan Hartman
Nick Schmaltz
Henri Jokiharju

Time to fire your scouting staff if you don't like any of their picks!

[ericdaoust]

That's actually a solid group considering they're not high 1st round picks

[lucafen4]

IMO Jokiharju has been overrated for a while. He had a splashy first couple weeks of the season last year when Q gave him a lot of minutes and then showed a lot of growing pains as the season progressed. I still thought he should have been on track for a spot this season in Chicago but that was more of a testament to how bad Seabrook is. Over the last couple days I have spent some time on Evolving Hockey looking at the fancy stats (the site keeps crashing on me) to see how bad Seabrook is and I kept noticing that Jokiharju showing up at the bottom of the ratings for Hawks' dmen last season. Seabrook, Forsling, and Jokiharju were easily the Hawks worst defensemen last season. And it was reported by a reputable source that the Hawks didn't feel Joker had any elite upside in any area and that he would his ceiling was a 2nd pairing dman. Now it sounds like the Hawks should have gotten more than Nylander but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's not as bad of a trade as a lot of people are making out.

no offence, but I'd prefer the 2nd pair Dman to a Brandon Pirri clone... well Pirri produces in the AHL and in spurts in the NHL.

Nylander better heed the wake up call. I've offed him in 3 different pools. Happy with those decisions in each one.

[bondon]

That's actually a solid group considering they're not high 1st round picks

I was gonna say...that's a pretty solid group of players.