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    Default Re: [TRADE] Hawks send Jokiharju to Buffalo for Alex Nylander

    Quote Originally Posted by mounD View Post
    Not sure I really understand this one for Chicago ... Jokiharju for A. Nylander straight up.
    Wow, what a great trade for Buffalo! Even if they don't really need defensemen, can't pass up that price!

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    I could see a Ristolainen <--> Nugent-Hopkins type swap incoming ...
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    Default Re: [TRADE] Hawks send Jokiharju to Buffalo for Alex Nylander

    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Did they really get Fwd help though. I mean, maybe a change of scenery will help Nylander, who knows. It worked well for DStrome so maybe they are hoping for a similar thing to happen with Nylander, but man, I dont see it.
    Well, they acquired a forward they didn't own previously, so there's that.

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    I could see a Ristolainen <--> Nugent-Hopkins type swap incoming ...
    Maybe. To me that's just Edmonton plugging one hole and creating another. They also have serious depth problems up front.


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    Default Re: [TRADE] Hawks send Jokiharju to Buffalo for Alex Nylander

    Quote Originally Posted by mounD View Post
    I could see a Ristolainen <--> Nugent-Hopkins type swap incoming ...
    Ya, thats been out there for a while. I would have thought if this was going to happen, it would have already happened. As an Oilers fan, I think RNH is worth more than Ristolainen. I feel Risto is a bit overrated. He's a decent 3/4 Dman but he's no 1/2 and I think thats what it would take to have the Oilers deal RNH. I hope I am wrong, but thankfully we dont have Chiarelli pulling the strings anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Ya, thats been out there for a while. I would have thought if this was going to happen, it would have already happened. As an Oilers fan, I think RNH is worth more than Ristolainen. I feel Risto is a bit overrated. He's a decent 3/4 Dman but he's no 1/2 and I think thats what it would take to have the Oilers deal RNH. I hope I am wrong, but thankfully we dont have Chiarelli pulling the strings anymore.
    Yeah, I agree RNH is obviously the far superior player (and asset in a cap system), but Ristolainen is one of those guys that is still vastly overrated in real life. And Holland did just take Broberg 8th overall because he's big and skates well.
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    Default Re: [TRADE] Hawks send Jokiharju to Buffalo for Alex Nylander

    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    Gotta think, unless there's some unknown issue with Joki - that he's the type of kid Tor, Van, Edm, Wpg (among others) would have been in on and had better prospects to fling back to Chi.
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    I like the deal for both teams tbh. On paper BUF does seem to win out but Stan has never shied away from 'appearing to lose a deal' in order to get things done. He isn't a dummy.

    BUF gets another bright young dman who can take over the #2/3 from Risto and Stan gets another young, skilled winger that needs the sort of help he and his staff will probably be able to give him in order to reach his potential. Still very early to count Alexander out -- but then again, they will have to deal with him and his dad in 2 years time as well should they be successful in getting the most out of him between now and then...

    Starting to think BUF is trying to package Risto + Okposo together for whatever they can get. They are pretty, pretty, pretty stacked throughout their line-up now. They just need the roster/chemistry to click into place once and for all. NJ, CBJ, OTT might make some sense (OK maybe not OTT... unless Dorion can convince Eugene that the value is there depending on the ask)... but who really knows what is going to happen in this whacky ride of an off-season...
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    Default Re: [TRADE] Hawks send Jokiharju to Buffalo for Alex Nylander

    So far Buffalo has added Colin Miller, Jimmy Vesey, and Henri Jokiharju for the cost of: a second round pick (2021), a third round pick (2021), a 5th round pick (2022), and Alex Nylander.

    In the words of Larry David, that's "pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I just read on twitter one tweet that sums it up for me nicely. If you knew you were going to trade Jokiharju, why didnt they draft Byram??

    I agree with that statement.
    They may have reasoned that they have an ample number of defence and needed help at center. The real question is still why Dach over Turcotte.

    They also have Gustafsson (I know, he's a LH shot but plays on the RH side).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift Disturber View Post
    They may have reasoned that they have an ample number of defence and needed help at center. The real question is still why Dach over Turcotte.

    They also have Gustafsson (I know, he's a LH shot but plays on the RH side).
    the Hawks only have three RHD signed in their organization: Seabrook, Murphy, and Boqvist. It doesn't make sense from a value standpoint; it doesn't make sense from a positional context. It's just weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mounD View Post
    the Hawks only have three RHD signed in their organization: Seabrook, Murphy, and Boqvist. It doesn't make sense from a value standpoint; it doesn't make sense from a positional context. It's just weird.
    It makes sense if they feel that Boqvst is close. They need top 6 depth so Nylander will get a crack at finally sticking there. They may also be resigned to playing Seabrook as he's untradeable and un-buy-out-able.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift Disturber View Post
    It makes sense if they feel that Boqvst is close. They need top 6 depth so Nylander will get a crack at finally sticking there. They may also be resigned to playing Seabrook as he's untradeable and un-buy-out-able.
    Projecting Alex Nylander for the Hawks top-six in the near future is incredibly optimistic, even with their current roster. Gotta believe he's behind at least Sikura and Shaw (and maybe Perlini) for opportunities, perhaps even Dach depending on how much the Hawks like him. Nylander only has 30 goals in 165 AHL games to date and he's barely over .5 points per game in three pro seasons.
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    It must mean Risto might be on his way out, otherwise not sure why they’re stockpiling all these D men.

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