Laine wants a bridge?
Elliott Friedman apparently reported that Laine wants a bridge deal.
https://twitter.com/spinohockey/stat...26385009762309
So what would a bridge deal for Laine look like.
I was thinking 2 years, $11m. $5.5m AAV
Thoughts?
6 Team no limit Keeper. Cap league $100m
Points only G/A=1, Hattrick = +3, Wins = 2, SO = +3, OTL/SOL = +1
12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies, 6 Reserve (any position)
Forwards
Crosby $8.7
Stone $9.5
Svechnikov $7.7
Debrincat $6.4
Hall $6
Meier $6
Guentzel $6
Ehlers $6
Hertl $5.6
Konecny $5.5
Palat $5.3
JT Miller $5.2
Garland $4.9
Kakko $.9
Laff $.9
Defense
Josi $9
Burns $8
Letang $7.2
Nurse $5.6
Werenski $5
Sergachev $4.8
Fox $.9
Goalies
Shesterkin $5.6
Ullmark $5
Hart $3.9
Blackwood $2.8
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
If you compare the deal to Kucherov's 3-year bridge, which was for 6.53% of the cap, you get roughly those numbers. Kinda think the salary will be even higher because goals are a premium, higher draft slot/cachet in Laine, tax considerations and general rise in RFA bargaining power. Think it'll be 2-3 years near $7M AAV.
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
In your opinion,Originally Posted by metaldude26
Will he outperform that contract and cash in later?
6 Team no limit Keeper. Cap league $100m
Points only G/A=1, Hattrick = +3, Wins = 2, SO = +3, OTL/SOL = +1
12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies, 6 Reserve (any position)
Forwards
Crosby $8.7
Stone $9.5
Svechnikov $7.7
Debrincat $6.4
Hall $6
Meier $6
Guentzel $6
Ehlers $6
Hertl $5.6
Konecny $5.5
Palat $5.3
JT Miller $5.2
Garland $4.9
Kakko $.9
Laff $.9
Defense
Josi $9
Burns $8
Letang $7.2
Nurse $5.6
Werenski $5
Sergachev $4.8
Fox $.9
Goalies
Shesterkin $5.6
Ullmark $5
Hart $3.9
Blackwood $2.8
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
Yeah. He had a horrible year and still scored 30g/20a.
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
I'd like to think it's a good sign that he's betting on himself to then cash in after the bridge deal. Hopefully it isn't him being cocky and assuming he'll be able to cash in after a bridge deal if he doesn't improve his game.
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Re: Laine wants a bridge?
There was a point in one of the recent articles here that mentioned Laine's Shooting % dipped significantly last season from his career average, roughly 6 percentage points. Accordingly, if we were to apply his career % to his SOG totals last year, that disparity accounts for almost 15 additional goals. If Laine finished with 45g-20a we wouldn't even be having this conversation and he'd be locked up on a huge money contract already.
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3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, 2G, 7Bn (IR)
G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK // W, Sv, GAA, Sv%, SHO
C: Bergeron, Barkov, Aho, Point, Kadri
LW: Marchand, Landeskog, Hertl, Marchessault
RW: Stamkos, Tarasenko, Laine, Palmieri
D: Carlson, Letang, Dumba, Weber, Pietrangelo, Ristolainen, Byfuglien*
G: Bobrovsky, Holtby, Lehner, Greiss-Varlamov
Farm: Turcotte, Cozens, Denisenko, Newhook // Sandin, Jokiharju, Dobson, K'Andre // Shesterkin
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
I could see a "bridge deal" for Laine coming in at as much as 6.5 or 7 for 2 years. Now I recognize that those numbers don't exactly sound like a "bridge deal". But Laine is coming off a down year in which he was battling a back injury. He scored 36 goals in 73 games in his rookie season. He scored 44 in his sophomore year. He just had a "down" year of 30 goals. As mounD pointed out, his shooting % was way down as well.
Had Laine scored 40 goals again this past year, he'd be getting double digit AAV on a long term deal. I think he gets a 2 year deal around $6.5m which turns out to be a steal as he will score 90+ goals over that time. He will then sign a long term deal worth double that AAV in 2021... write that down
Without me, it's only "aweso".
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
This sounds about right. Laine is smart for wanting a bridge deal in this situation, as I'm sure the AAV would be deflated if he were to opt for a longer-term deal at this point.I could see a "bridge deal" for Laine coming in at as much as 6.5 or 7 for 2 years. Now I recognize that those numbers don't exactly sound like a "bridge deal". But Laine is coming off a down year in which he was battling a back injury. He scored 36 goals in 73 games in his rookie season. He scored 44 in his sophomore year. He just had a "down" year of 30 goals. As mounD pointed out, his shooting % was way down as well.
Had Laine scored 40 goals again this past year, he'd be getting double digit AAV on a long term deal. I think he gets a 2 year deal around $6.5m which turns out to be a steal as he will score 90+ goals over that time. He will then sign a long term deal worth double that AAV in 2021... write that down
MounD - Double Threat FHL (18-19 champs)
10-Team Yahoo daily H2H Dynasty
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, 2G, 7Bn (IR)
G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK // W, Sv, GAA, Sv%, SHO
C: Bergeron, Barkov, Aho, Point, Kadri
LW: Marchand, Landeskog, Hertl, Marchessault
RW: Stamkos, Tarasenko, Laine, Palmieri
D: Carlson, Letang, Dumba, Weber, Pietrangelo, Ristolainen, Byfuglien*
G: Bobrovsky, Holtby, Lehner, Greiss-Varlamov
Farm: Turcotte, Cozens, Denisenko, Newhook // Sandin, Jokiharju, Dobson, K'Andre // Shesterkin
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
A bridge deal makes perfect sense for both parties, but he doesn't deserve more than $5 million for a bridge deal.
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Re: Laine wants a bridge?
How many 30 goal scorers (and that's in a bad year) can be had for $5mil per year? That list gets even smaller for guys who have hit 40+ goals
Without me, it's only "aweso".
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
Deserve's got nothing to do with it. It's all about what you have the leverage to negotiate.
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
30 goals isn't that special...there were 45 players who scored over 30 last year.
Laine isn't a very good hockey player outside of goal scoring. Arvidsson, Gallagher, Athanasiou, Zibanejad, Couturier, Toews, Hoffman all scored more goals than Laine. Yet all those players bring more to the table than just goal scoring. (Well, maybe not Hoffman...tbh, Laine reminds me a lot of Hoffman).
12 team, H2H, salary cap
1 pt/G or A, 2 pts/W, 1 pt/OTL, 1 pt/SO
Forward: B. Point, M. Necas, A. Debrincat, T. Zegras, J. Bratt, L. Raymond
Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke
League has been running continuously since 1997-98
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
I'm not saying what he will sign for. I'm saying what he deserves.
Every time I say that player X deserves X amount, people get all worked up and say "that isn't what the market says he should get" or "if you compare him to X player, he will get this amount. That is what 30 goal scorers get".
I'm merely saying what I think he deserves, not what he will get.
Too many players are overpaid and that is why so many teams are in cap trouble.
Winnipeg will regret signing Laine to a bridge deal more than $5 million, or to a long-term deal for anything over $9 million. He is a one-dimensional player and will end up being a contract they will want to dump in the future.
12 team, H2H, salary cap
1 pt/G or A, 2 pts/W, 1 pt/OTL, 1 pt/SO
Forward: B. Point, M. Necas, A. Debrincat, T. Zegras, J. Bratt, L. Raymond
Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke
League has been running continuously since 1997-98
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
The thing about Laine is that while he's not the greatest actual hockey player, he is incredibly (perhaps even generationally) gifted as a goal scorer. That just so happens to be the single most valuable skill in the game of hockey, so if you're going to be elite at one thing, scoring goals is a good one to pick. Because of his uncanny ability to put pucks in the net, he's assured to make big bucks whether it's on a bridge type of term, or a longer term contract.
Will he be worth it? Who knows ... he probably won't be playing great 200-foot hockey, but he can definitely put 40+ goals up annually. That's very valuable, and teams will pay handsomely for that skill.
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3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, 2G, 7Bn (IR)
G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK // W, Sv, GAA, Sv%, SHO
C: Bergeron, Barkov, Aho, Point, Kadri
LW: Marchand, Landeskog, Hertl, Marchessault
RW: Stamkos, Tarasenko, Laine, Palmieri
D: Carlson, Letang, Dumba, Weber, Pietrangelo, Ristolainen, Byfuglien*
G: Bobrovsky, Holtby, Lehner, Greiss-Varlamov
Farm: Turcotte, Cozens, Denisenko, Newhook // Sandin, Jokiharju, Dobson, K'Andre // Shesterkin
Re: Laine wants a bridge?
I disagree. The long-term deals for 30+ year-old players are where teams get into trouble. Laine's a guy they want to keep around. I don't care if he's one-dimensional. His one dimension is the dimension every team wants and he's one of the best at it. He's 21 and cares, he will improve.
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