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    Hey guys,

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    I have coveted M. Tkachuk for a while. I'm assuming his contract will likely be in the same range as Connor (who is a bit one diminutional and could end up on the second line).

    I know I'll be waiting a bit Samsonov. But I could use a solid prospect in the nets.

    The real dick punch is Lebanc. He was an amazing value last year and I expect him to still be a relative bargain this year.

    What do ya'll think? Is my hard-on for Tkachuk affecting my judgement?
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    RW: J. Anderson, Coleman, Garland, Puljujarvi, Hoglander
    LW: Tkachuck, Miller, Goodrow, Mangiapane
    D: McAvoy, DeAngelo, Krug, Borowiecki, Gustafsson, Lindgren
    G: Shesterkin, Samsonov

    Minors: Kahkonen, Sandin, Jarvis, Rasmussen, Elvenes, Abramov, Morin, Brisson, Clague, Gilbert, Hoglander, Timmins
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    In a multi cat league Tkachuk is invalueable and hasn't reached his ceiling yet if you ask me. Not so sure about Labanc, it could actually be the ideal point to sell him at good value. Short: if I can get Tkachuk in a multi cat league for this price, I take it and run.
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    I would take this and run.

    Someone like Bracco might be available and you get an immediate Labanc replacement on your minor squad.
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    This seems like fair value for a multi-cat stud like Tkachuk. I really like Connor and Lebanc, but they are not nearly as valuable as Tkachuk in this format, so I see this as a fair trade.
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    Seems to me like the question is which of the two options do you prefer: Jost + Tkachuk or Labanc + Connor. I'd definitely take my chances with Jost being closer to Labanc if it gets me Tkachuk instead of Connor. Not to mention the fact that you are adding a high-end G prospect who could have big value in a couple years in exchange for a maybe D prospect whose value has faltered a bit over the past couple seasons.

    Tkachuk is the real prize here, but Samsonov is a nice little cherry on top of this sundae.
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    I like this deal a lot for you in your format.
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    UPDATE: He balked on the previous configuration.

    He now wants D. Strome + Glass + Liljegren + Timmins FOR Tkachuck + Samsonov + 2nd (pick 15 overall)

    Essentially, I'm switching Connor and Lebanc form the original deal for Strome and Glass.

    While I'm loathe to get rid of two young centres under 1M, it is a position of strength for me. I already have Schiefele, Trocheck, and PLD down the middle.

    The pick is a nice touch as I currently have zero picks and am hosting the draft party. Without a pick, I just become a friggin bartender.
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    C: Tavares, Pettersson, Bergeron, Dubois, Trocheck, Gaudette
    RW: J. Anderson, Coleman, Garland, Puljujarvi, Hoglander
    LW: Tkachuck, Miller, Goodrow, Mangiapane
    D: McAvoy, DeAngelo, Krug, Borowiecki, Gustafsson, Lindgren
    G: Shesterkin, Samsonov

    Minors: Kahkonen, Sandin, Jarvis, Rasmussen, Elvenes, Abramov, Morin, Brisson, Clague, Gilbert, Hoglander, Timmins
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    I like it even more for you now...imo:

    Connor/Labanc >> Stome/Glass
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    I like it even more for you now...imo:

    Connor/Labanc >> Stome/Glass
    I'm leaning towards taking the deal. Having both Connor AND Tkachuck will create some cap issues for me BUT I think that sounds like a tomorrow problem.
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    G, A, PIM, SOG, STP, HIT, BLK, TK, FOW
    W, SV%, GAA, SO

    C: Tavares, Pettersson, Bergeron, Dubois, Trocheck, Gaudette
    RW: J. Anderson, Coleman, Garland, Puljujarvi, Hoglander
    LW: Tkachuck, Miller, Goodrow, Mangiapane
    D: McAvoy, DeAngelo, Krug, Borowiecki, Gustafsson, Lindgren
    G: Shesterkin, Samsonov

    Minors: Kahkonen, Sandin, Jarvis, Rasmussen, Elvenes, Abramov, Morin, Brisson, Clague, Gilbert, Hoglander, Timmins
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    Better deal than before!

    I would pull the trigger. It's a fair deal with real value going both ways. The kicker for you is that Tkachuck is the best player and a stud in your format.
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    I hear ya...these RFAs are going to cause so much grief in cap leagues...I've got Point and Connor myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    I hear ya...these RFAs are going to cause so much grief in cap leagues...I've got Point and Connor myself.
    Hopefully Point takes a no tax deal.

    I have Pavelski, Connor, Provorov, Lebanc, DeAngelo, and (now possibly) Tkachuck needing new contracts.

    Somethings got to give.

    I'll likely try and move one of Pavelski (old) or Connor (no peripherals) for a 2nd goalie and/or picks.
    10 TEAM FANTRAX LEAGUE (Salary Cap)
    23 Man Roster (Keep 16) + 12 Minors

    G, A, PIM, SOG, STP, HIT, BLK, TK, FOW
    W, SV%, GAA, SO

    C: Tavares, Pettersson, Bergeron, Dubois, Trocheck, Gaudette
    RW: J. Anderson, Coleman, Garland, Puljujarvi, Hoglander
    LW: Tkachuck, Miller, Goodrow, Mangiapane
    D: McAvoy, DeAngelo, Krug, Borowiecki, Gustafsson, Lindgren
    G: Shesterkin, Samsonov

    Minors: Kahkonen, Sandin, Jarvis, Rasmussen, Elvenes, Abramov, Morin, Brisson, Clague, Gilbert, Hoglander, Timmins
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    And that's a wrap, folks. The trade has been made.

    M.TKACUCK + SAMSONOV + 2ND(2019)
    for
    D. STROME + GLASS + LILJEGREN + TIMMINS

    Rep to all, and to all a good night.
    10 TEAM FANTRAX LEAGUE (Salary Cap)
    23 Man Roster (Keep 16) + 12 Minors

    G, A, PIM, SOG, STP, HIT, BLK, TK, FOW
    W, SV%, GAA, SO

    C: Tavares, Pettersson, Bergeron, Dubois, Trocheck, Gaudette
    RW: J. Anderson, Coleman, Garland, Puljujarvi, Hoglander
    LW: Tkachuck, Miller, Goodrow, Mangiapane
    D: McAvoy, DeAngelo, Krug, Borowiecki, Gustafsson, Lindgren
    G: Shesterkin, Samsonov

    Minors: Kahkonen, Sandin, Jarvis, Rasmussen, Elvenes, Abramov, Morin, Brisson, Clague, Gilbert, Hoglander, Timmins
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