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    The following trade was made in my league in sig that has raised some eyebrows, so wanted to check with the Dobber community. I am the commish of this league and I've never had to veto a trade in this league in the previous 4 years.

    Team 1 receives:
    Anthony Cirelli
    Tyler Madden
    2019 1st (23rd ovr)

    Team 2 receives:
    Neal Pionk
    Ryan Lindgren
    Andrei Altybarmakyan
    2020 3rd
    2020 5th

    For context Team 2 was a bottom team last year, the owner was never active and had to be replaced. Team 1 recruited the new owner of Team 2.
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    Default Re: Good Trade?

    It looks like Team A gets the better haul, but I wouldn't say it's so lopsided that it changes the integrity of the league.

    The bit of info about Team 1 recruiting Team 2 raises a red flag, but if there's no sense of collusion, I would let it stand.

    If you want, ask for the reasoning for the deal from both GMs, and they should be able to explain what their thinking is. If team 2 thinks it's a good deal, you can explain why you don't think it is, but it's still up to him to make those decisions.
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    I agree that team 1 is getting the better side of the deal but it's nothing egregious. I like what EB is saying about asking both owners why they feel it's a good deal but I would let it stand either way. If Team 2 is new, it makes sense for him to get his feet wet with an owner he already knows. If this continues though, then it would get suspicious.

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    Doesn't seem like a league-shattering kind of deal on its face, but that has nothing to do with whether there's collusion. I'm generally of the mind that all trades should be allowed absent collusion or absolutely league-breaking dynamics.
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    Thanks guys, those were my thoughts but I wanted to bounce it off some others first before coming to a conclusion.
    24 Team H2H Pts Cap Dyn
    4C 4LW 4RW 6D 1G 4B 27M

    G (1) A (1) +/- (.25) PIM (.05) SOG (.05) PPP (.5) HIT (.05) BLK (.05) FOW (.01)
    W (1.75) GA (-1) SV (.1) SO (3)

    C: Seguin, Kuznetsov, Trocheck, Johansen, Kostin
    LW: Benn, Lindblom, Dickinson, Kubalik
    RW: Tuch, Fabbri, Bjorkstrand, Terry
    D: Klingberg, Chabot, Girard, Spurgeon, C Miller, Theodore, Marino
    G: Hellebuyck, Berdin

    C: Elvenes, Vorobyev, Spacek, Jones, Eyssimont, Daviddson, Shvyrev
    LW: Dorofyev, Koivula, Shalagin, Dugan, Cates, Ranta
    RW: Volkov, Fortier, Evans, Blichfeld, Legare, Tieksola
    D: Laaksonen, Gilbert, Pilut
    G: Samsonov, Sorokin, Knight, Zagidulin


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    Get their opinions on why they did the deal, but if you can't actually prove collusion, I can't see a sensible way this gets vetoed.
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