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    https://twitter.com/seanshapiro/stat...765826049?s=19

    Stars have traded Tyler Pitlick to the Flyers for Ryan Hartman
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    Philadelphia is certainly active this summer; although I must admit I'm not quite grasping their big picture yet...

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    3rd NHL team already for Hartman.
    Why is he moved so much in his early career?

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    His value went from a 1st round pick to ... Pitlick in 16months.
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    is it just me or does everyone seem to want Hartman.
    then they get him and are like, "Oh..."
    and he gets traded again for a smaller return
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    Everything about this deal screams "meh"

    On both sides


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    Its a bottom six for a bottom six but a lot of people seem to think Hartman is better than what he is. Personally, I prefer Pitlick to Hartman, when he can stay healthy.
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    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    is it just me or does everyone seem to want Hartman.
    then they get him and are like, "Oh..."
    and he gets traded again for a smaller return
    There's definitely something to this. There were rumblings in Chicago that he was complaining about playing time. He never said anything to the press.
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    Dallas is probably gambling on whatever upside Hartman has to try and increase their secondary scoring. Because they need that a lot.


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    This feels like two GMs trying to look active by swapping 3rd liners.
    I agree... "meh".

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    Who gets to tell Hartman he's been traded:

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    Dallas isn't qualifying Hartman??? I'm so confused... Why trade for him?

    Hartman 1. doesn't know he's been traded; 2. doesn't know he's becoming a UFA tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    Philadelphia is certainly active this summer; although I must admit I'm not quite grasping their big picture yet...
    As a Flyers fan, I've been watching--and monitoring--all of Fletcher's moves this summer, including the draft.

    Overall, I think it's been so-so at best. Do Hayes, Niskanen, Braun and Pitlick make the Flyers a better, deeper team than last year? Sure. Did the Flyers add a ton of salary without adding a prime-time, legit star? Yep. I think Fletcher has added four solid, well-rounded players who are hard workers with character. All four are "the type of players coaches love" if that makes sense.

    Even though the UFA period did not officially begin, I think the Flyers are pretty set, outside of adding a BU tender and re-upping a couple more RFA's.

    If the Flyers are going to make a splash, it will need to be a massive hockey deal with good players (and salary) heading the other way. I don't see this happening.

    I think the Flyers are rolling into 2019-20 with...

    Giroux - Couturier - Konecny (RFA)
    JVR - Hayes - Voracek
    Lindblom - Patrick - Frost (or UFA)
    Raffl - Laughton (RFA) - Pitlick

    Provorov (RFA) - Niskanen
    Gostisbehere - Braun
    Sanheim - Myers

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    It's not just whether or not a series of moves makes a team better. Each team's goal is to be the best. Bad financial moves can put the team under a glass ceiling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    It's not just whether or not a series of moves makes a team better. Each team's goal is to be the best. Bad financial moves can put the team under a glass ceiling.
    I agree 100%.

    Personally, I am not of fan of Fletcher's offseason. I think the Hayes deal will be an albatross in 4 years--the last 3 years will be brutal.

    The Niskanen and Braun moves don't hurt the Flyers long-term, but it's money that could have been better spent this summer. Pitlick for Hartman is meh, whatever.

    I still don't like passing on Cole Caufield either--the Flyers have desperately needed a pure goal scorer for years--and they passed on him twice in the same draft. Caufield will score 40-45 goals in the NHL without question--write it down with a Sharpie.
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    Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
    D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
    Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10


    Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
    Captain: Matthews
    (F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
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