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    ''Last'' keeper decision in a points only keeper league who you got?

    I think Hall, if healthy, will probably have more points next season but is on last year of a 6M$ contract (great price now). Kuznetsov I see having a high upside and has 6 years left at 7,8M$...which is starting to looking better and better as a keeper with new contract prices going up.

    Pretty sure Hall has some trade value in my league (maybe a 3rd - 5th rounder) but not sure about Kuznetsov.

    Expecting to compete for first next season... but lots of good contracts expiring (Barzal, Strome, Josi, Morrissey, Gustafsson).
    8 Teams - Season long points only limited keeper (7F, 4D, 1G) cap league using cap hit
    Active lineup : 20 (12F, 6D, 2G)
    Bench: 6 (3F, 2D, 1G)
    10 trades for FAs + 10 moves between lineup and bench
    G (1 pt), A (1), W (2), SO (2), OTL (1)

    F: McDavid, Stutzle, Hischier, Hyman, Konecny, Raymond, Perfetti, Guentzel, Bratt, Drouin, JT Miller, Peterka, Guenther, L. Carlsson, Zary
    D: Makar, Q. Hughes, Malinski, Durzi, Harley, Sanderson, Clarke, Lundkvist
    G:Sorokin, Demko, Georgiev
    NHL cap : $83.5 cap (bench doesn't count against cap)

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    Default Re: Kuznetsov vs Hall

    i would keep hall a notch above

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    Hall for me as well. I actually traded him for Kuz and higher picks last season because Hall was done and I was trying to win.

    But.....now I'd rather have Hall

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    Default Re: Kuznetsov vs Hall

    Hall definitely for me.

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    Default Re: Kuznetsov vs Hall

    Hall is going to put up some ridiculous numbers this year (and going forward hopefully). I'm thinking he ends up signing in Jersey long term, and that's going to be such a good situation.
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    Default Re: Kuznetsov vs Hall

    hall kinda close

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    So it seems everyone is in agreement that 1 year of Hall is better than 6 years of Kuznetsov. (I will not be keeping Hall beyond this season at more or less 12M) That was my original plan but was wondering if Kuz would get some love.

    Curious to know how much value you put on contract term? (league in sig)
    8 Teams - Season long points only limited keeper (7F, 4D, 1G) cap league using cap hit
    Active lineup : 20 (12F, 6D, 2G)
    Bench: 6 (3F, 2D, 1G)
    10 trades for FAs + 10 moves between lineup and bench
    G (1 pt), A (1), W (2), SO (2), OTL (1)

    F: McDavid, Stutzle, Hischier, Hyman, Konecny, Raymond, Perfetti, Guentzel, Bratt, Drouin, JT Miller, Peterka, Guenther, L. Carlsson, Zary
    D: Makar, Q. Hughes, Malinski, Durzi, Harley, Sanderson, Clarke, Lundkvist
    G:Sorokin, Demko, Georgiev
    NHL cap : $83.5 cap (bench doesn't count against cap)

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    Call me crazy but beyond this season I want Kuznetsov here. Points only and his contract is going to look really good when Hall signs at 10mil plus next year.

    In a points only league and considering how Hall likes to miss time I think they'll be really close year to year. Sure Hall is a better player and in a bubble I want him. But you're in an all forward league (no winger / center position requirement) and the future cap hit weighted against the extra potential value in hall just isn't there for me. I'm keeping Kuz and trying to trade Hall for his value this season at 6 mil if at all possible.
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    Default Re: Kuznetsov vs Hall

    Quote Originally Posted by MZac View Post
    Call me crazy but beyond this season I want Kuznetsov here. Points only and his contract is going to look really good when Hall signs at 10mil plus next year.

    In a points only league and considering how Hall likes to miss time I think they'll be really close year to year. Sure Hall is a better player and in a bubble I want him. But you're in an all forward league (no winger / center position requirement) and the future cap hit weighted against the extra potential value in hall just isn't there for me. I'm keeping Kuz and trying to trade Hall for his value this season at 6 mil if at all possible.
    That sounds like my inner voice this past week... had Hall penciled in for a while before that.

    I like both. Traded Teravainen and Rackell for Hall last off season and picked Kuznetsov with my first pick last draft.

    I could technically keep both and not protect Morrissey... but at 3,15$ I think he could end up being a steal next season.
    8 Teams - Season long points only limited keeper (7F, 4D, 1G) cap league using cap hit
    Active lineup : 20 (12F, 6D, 2G)
    Bench: 6 (3F, 2D, 1G)
    10 trades for FAs + 10 moves between lineup and bench
    G (1 pt), A (1), W (2), SO (2), OTL (1)

    F: McDavid, Stutzle, Hischier, Hyman, Konecny, Raymond, Perfetti, Guentzel, Bratt, Drouin, JT Miller, Peterka, Guenther, L. Carlsson, Zary
    D: Makar, Q. Hughes, Malinski, Durzi, Harley, Sanderson, Clarke, Lundkvist
    G:Sorokin, Demko, Georgiev
    NHL cap : $83.5 cap (bench doesn't count against cap)

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