Man... Knight is going way too early in these drafts (to everyone's benefit).
1. Jack Hughes C, USNTDP, :njd:
2. Kaapo Kakko W, TPS, :nyr:
3. Kirby Dach, C, Saskatoon Blades, :chi:
4. Alex Turcotte, C, USNTDP, :lak:
5. Bowen Byram, D, Vancouver Giants, :col:
6. Trevor Zegras, C, USNTDP, :ana:
7. Vasili Podkolzin, RW, SKA St. Petersburg :van:
8. Cole Caufield, W, USNTDP, :mtl:
9. Spencer Knight, G, USNTDP :fla:
10.Dylan Cozens, C, Lethbridge Hurricanes, :buf:
11. Peyton Krebs, C, Kootenay Ice, :vgk:
12. Matt Boldy , W, USNTDP, :min:
13. Arthur Kaliyev W, Hamilton Bulldogs, :lak:
14. Alex Newhook, C, Victoria Grizzlies, :col:
15. Philip Broberg, D, AIK, :edm:
16. Philip Tomasino, C, Niagara IceDogs, :nsh:
Round 2
17. Cam York, D, USNTDP,hi:
18. Victor Soderstrom, D, Brynas,hx:
19. Ville Heinola :wpg:
20. Raphael Lavoie :edm:
21. Moritz Seider :det:
22. Bobby Brinkhi:
23. Nick Robertson :tor:
24. Thomas Harley :dal:
25. Ryan Suzuki :canes:
26. Samuel Poulinit:
27. Lassi Thomsontt:
28. Jakob Pelletier :cgy:
29. Brayden Tracey :ana:
30. Connor McMichael :wsh:
31. Egor Afanasyev :nsh:
32. Pyotr Kochetkov :canes: (edited)
Round 3
33. Brett Leason :wsh:
34. Nils Hoglander :van:
35. Pavel Dorofeyev :vgk:
36. Simon Holmstrom, RW, :nyi:
37. Ryan Johnson, LD, :buf:
38. Jamieson Rees :canes:
39. Logan Browntt:
40. Ian Mitchell :chi:
41. Phillip Kurashev :chi:
42. Johnny Beecher :bos:
43. Oliwer Kaski :det:
44. Patrik Puistola :canes:
45. Lukas Dostal :ana:
46. Isaac Ratcliffehi:
47. Mads Soogardtt:
48. Mathias Emilio Pettersen :cgy:
Round 4
49. Alex Vlasic :chi:
50. Aarne Talvitie :njd:
51. Anttoni Honka :canes:
52. Nolan Foote :tbl:
53. Hunter Jones :min:
54. Rhett Pitlick :mtl:
55. Karl Henricksson :nyr:
56. Shane Pintott:
57. Karson Kuhlman :bos:
58. Joseph Woll :tor:
59. Robert Mastrosimone :det:
60. Josef Korenar :sjs:
61. Otto Koivula :nyi:
62. Josh Brook :mtl:
63. Mikko Kokkonen :tor:
64. Kirill Marchenko :cbj:
Round 5
65. Jack Studnicka :bos:
66. Lucas Elvenes :vgk:
67. Mason Appleton :wpg:
68. Julien Gauthier :canes:
69. Artyom Zagidulin :cgy:
70. Vladislav Kolyachonok :fla:
71. Urho Vaakanainen :bos:
72. Evan Barratt :chi:
73. Samuel Fagemo :lak:
74. Vladislav Firstov :min:
75. Antti Tuomisto :det:
76. Calle Rosen :tor:
77. Trey Fix-Wolansky :cbj:
78. Kevin Lankainen :chi:
79. Christopher Gibson :nyi:
80. Sebastian Aho :nyi:
Heavy C league that counts FOW, G, A, STP, hits, blocks and there is a salary cap. I was up against the cap so I made an extremely bold move to trade Gaudreau for Turcotte + Zegras + hague + Wilde. Probably not the smartest move but everyone knew I was in cap trouble and that was the best value available out of all the trades I received that brought me under the cap. Let me know what you think. Tried to get a good blend of high upside players from this year and some players that were hanging around from past drafts. Probably missed a few diamonds in the rough and reached a little too soon on some guys but I am very happy with the results as of right this second.
16 Team H2H Franchise style with Cap (G,A,FOW,SOG, STP, Hits, Blocks)(Gpt3, GAA, Sv, Sv%) 3 Centers, 3 LW, 3 RW, 5 D, 2 Skaters, 4 Bench spots, 3 IR. Minor league prospects can only be acquired via trade and draft.
C: Seguin, Eichel, Crosby
LW: Marchessault, Rakell, Labanc
RW: Lindholm, Radulov, Stamkos
D: Ghost, Risto, Dumba, Cernak, Juulsen
Skt: Strome, Wheeler
Bench: Staal, Perry, Thornton, Lemieux
Goalies: Holtby, Grubauer, Jarry
Minor Leagues: Alex Turcotte, Trevor Zegras, Vitali Kratsov, Noah Dobson
Man... Knight is going way too early in these drafts (to everyone's benefit).
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C Pinto Hayton kDach Lowry / Roy Glass Reichel Blueger Lombardi Surin
LW kJohnson Knies Lehkonen Geekie / Quinn Luostarinen Buchelnikov Grebenkin
RW Wilson Kakko Lafferriere Chinakhov / Roslovic Brink Chaffee Kantserov sO'Reilly
D Werenski Pionk Power Hronek Evans Guhle / Roy Blankenburg Gudas ASP Salomonsson
G Swayman / Hill Hogberg Kokko Ivanov Skarek
2025 Picks: 1st, 3rd, 3rd
2026 Picks: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd
I understand that. But in most instances even goalies like him are 3-4 years away (if not more) from a true sniff and I'd argue that many don't even pan out at the end of the day - or at least 'fulfill their destiny' as a franchise goaltender. How many of those are there in the league? Three? Four? Five? I get that this might help your side of the argument even more but how many other goalies were drafted to become 'the chosen one' and never panned out? Look at the 2007 NHL Draft for example where three goalies were taken in the 1st round: Bernier, Varlamov and Irving.
I get that Knight is special - I get that he has a pedigree we haven't seen since Samsonov, Vasilevskiy, Price and Fleury.
But, in those 3-4 years it will take Knight, no list will experience more volatility than the goalie prospect rankings. So many prospects come and go... rise and fall. So many teams' situations change in that time. Injuries happen. prospects'/players' self-confidence come and go. Depth charts change. Confidences of management are won and lost. Short, medium and long-term organizational outlooks/strategies change.
There will be a good number of goalies (who haven't played a regular season game in the NHL) getting a worthwhile shot before he does (which may be even further out than the 3-4 years I mention above with Sgt. Bobrovsky signing a 7 year contract in FLA). And that's all you need at the end of the day -- just one shot. Look at Binnington as a most recent example -- just when Jake Allen was about to be 'the guy'. And there will be more affordable ways to grab serviceable young goalies on the fringe like he once was or other promising prospects in the interim.
That said, however, I'd have no problem targeting Knight in the latter half of the first round in bigger leagues. I understand that his name alone holds a lot of intangible value in keeper/dynasty leagues. I just wouldn't take him in the top 10 (or 12 in this draft year's instance).
I might be wrong. That's just my point of view through my own, averaged-out experiences in large (20-24+ team) and small (12-14 team) leagues over the years.
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... In memory of "The Net Detective"
C Pinto Hayton kDach Lowry / Roy Glass Reichel Blueger Lombardi Surin
LW kJohnson Knies Lehkonen Geekie / Quinn Luostarinen Buchelnikov Grebenkin
RW Wilson Kakko Lafferriere Chinakhov / Roslovic Brink Chaffee Kantserov sO'Reilly
D Werenski Pionk Power Hronek Evans Guhle / Roy Blankenburg Gudas ASP Salomonsson
G Swayman / Hill Hogberg Kokko Ivanov Skarek
2025 Picks: 1st, 3rd, 3rd
2026 Picks: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd
Round 1
Pos Team Player Pk Ov Type
C Coqs de Courbevoie Hughes, Jack - NJ 1 1 LS
RW HC Sparta Praha Kakko, Kaapo - NYR 2 2 LS
C Tampere Tappara Turcotte, Alex - LA 3 3 LS
RW Coqs de Courbevoie Caufield, Cole - MON 4 4 LS
RW Dinamo Minsk Podkolzin, Vasili - VAN 5 5 LS
C SKA St. Petersburg Cozens, Dylan - BUF 6 6 LQA
D Belfast Giants Byram, Bowen - COL 7 7 LS
G Dinamo Minsk Knight, Spencer - FLA 8 8 LS
C HC Sparta Praha Zegras, Trevor - ANA 9 9 LS
LW Jokerit Boldy, Matthew - MIN 10 10 LS
Round 2
Pos Team Player Pk Ov Type
C HC Sparta Praha Dach, Kirby - CHI 1 11 LS
C HC Sparta Praha Newhook, Alex - COL 2 12 LS
RW Tampere Tappara Kaliyev, Arthur - LA 3 13 LS
C Coqs de Courbevoie Krebs, Peyton - VGK 4 14 LS
RW Dinamo Minsk Brink, Bobby - PHI 5 15 LS
D CSKA Moscow York, Cam - PHI 6 16 LS
LW Montpellier Vipers Tracey, Brayden - ANA 7 17 LS
C CSKA Moscow Suzuki, Ryan - CAR 8 18 LS
D Dragons de Rouen Seider, Moritz - DET 9 19 LS
C Tampere Tappara Tomasino, Philip - NSH 10 20 LS
Round 3
Pos Team Player Pk Ov Type
LW CSKA Moscow Pelletier, Jakob - CGY 1 21 LS
D Tampere Tappara Harley, Thomas - DAL 2 22 LS
G Belfast Giants Kochetkov, Pyotr - CAR 3 23 LS
D Montpellier Vipers Broberg, Philip - EDM 4 24 LS
C Dinamo Minsk Beecher, John - BOS 5 25 LS
LW Coqs de Courbevoie Dorofeyev, Pavel - VGK 6 26 LS
RW Tampere Tappara Puistola, Patrik - CAR 7 27 LS
RW Dragons de Rouen Lavoie, Raphaël - EDM 8 28 LS
D Dragons de Rouen Soderstrom, Victor - ARI 9 29 LS
RW Jokerit Holmström, Simon - NYI 10 30 LS
Round 4
Pos Team Player Pk Ov Type
D CSKA Moscow Heinola, Ville - WPG 1 31 LS
LW CSKA Moscow Firstov, Vladislav - MIN 2 32 LS
LW Jokerit Poulin, Samuel - PIT 3 33 LS
D Dragons de Rouen Mitchell, Ian - CHI 4 34 LS
G Dinamo Minsk Sogaard, Mads - OTT 5 35 LS
C SKA St. Petersburg Robertson, Nick - TOR 6 36 LS
G Belfast Giants Shortridge, Andrew - SJ 7 37 LS
LW Coqs de Courbevoie Hoglander, Nils - VAN 8 38 LS
C Montpellier Vipers Texier, Alexandre - CBJ 9 39 LS
LW Jokerit Fagemo, Samuel - LA 10 40 LQA
Round 5
Pos Team Player Pk Ov Type
D CSKA Moscow Romanov, Alexander - MON 1 41 LS
LW CSKA Moscow Hirose, Taro - DET 2 42 LS
C Tampere Tappara McMichael, Connor - WSH 3 43 LS
G Dragons de Rouen Larsson, Filip - DET 4 44 LS
G Belfast Giants Kielly, Jake - VAN 5 45 LS
LW SKA St. Petersburg Foote, Nolan - TB 6 46 LQA
C Belfast Giants Saarela, Aleksi - CHI 7 47 LS
D Coqs de Courbevoie Kaski, Oliwer - DET 8 48 LS
D Dragons de Rouen Woo, Jett - VAN 9 49 LS
G Belfast Giants Lankinen, Kevin - CHI 10 50 LS
Made some more trades for picks. I will only be posting my picks and the position I got them.
#35 - Bobby Brink
#37 - Pyotr Kotchetkov
#40 - Raphael Lavoie
#49 - Rasmus Andersson
#52 - Alexander (Sasha) Chmelevski
I'm pretty happy with my draft as a whole. I think it went very well.
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Cats - G, A, PTS, +/-, PIMS, PPP, SHP, Hits, SOG, BS, W, GAA, S%, S and SO
C - Crosby, MacKinnion, Bergeron, Kopitar and Pageau
LW - Marchand, Pacioretty, Nugent-Hopkins (C) and Vrana
RW - Stone, Voracek, Duclair (LW), T. Wilson and Tanev (LW)
D - Hedman, Doughty, Trouba, Weber and Giordano
G - Holtby, Binnington, Quick and M. Koskinen
Farm
Highlights - Cernak, V. Soderstrom, T. Harley, V. Heinola, R. Andersson, C. Garland, C. Grundstrom, P. Kochetkov
Picks - 2020 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th
I know I could not believe knight went so high- lol! I gu as it's hard to get quality tendies in this league. I agree on zegras I really struggl d between him and Cozens. In the end I think it's cam Robinson who really swayed saying sometimes you mistake the nameplates between him and jack hughes- lol! Plus Cozens seems pretty raw. We'll see it's a fair counterpoint and will be neat to ch CK in on in a year or two...
In my goalie starved (see: hoarded), league Knight is going to go top 5 and I completely understand why. Boom or bust swing for the fences pick.
- I said... "God damn this tablet is heavy!"
Knight has been shooting up draft boards and I see him solidifying a top ten Avg by August. As pointed out above, every format is different but there is no denying he's going really really high. Through 20 drafts
Knight's Avg is 11.95, Hi of 3, Lo of 29 (twice, both pre NHL draft)
He has gone top ten in 11 of 20 drafts as well as top 10 in the last five I have tracked. He's ah rising folks.
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20 Team Dynasty (Unique Cap) H2H 23 Man roster - 20 Minor
G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR
C-Hischier,W.Nylander,Benn
LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk,Marchand,Gaudreau
RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
G-Hart,Vanecek
B-Brannstrom,Crouse
Prospects
Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
Entry Draft 5 Rds [<60gp] '23 2,3,3,5
Cap 77.82M/82.5M
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3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, 2G, 7Bn (IR)
G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK // W, Sv, GAA, Sv%, SHO
C: Bergeron, Barkov, Aho, Point, Kadri
LW: Marchand, Landeskog, Hertl, Marchessault
RW: Stamkos, Tarasenko, Laine, Palmieri
D: Carlson, Letang, Dumba, Weber, Pietrangelo, Ristolainen, Byfuglien*
G: Bobrovsky, Holtby, Lehner, Greiss-Varlamov
Farm: Turcotte, Cozens, Denisenko, Newhook // Sandin, Jokiharju, Dobson, K'Andre // Shesterkin
Complete nerds indeed! I guess the reason why I’m “surprised” that Knight is rising so fast is there are so many offensive studs in that range not to mention the return on investment is an eternity in fantasy years. I remember in ‘17 when Oettinger was going top 20 and higher the same way Knight is going top 10. In a lot of leagues now, I think Oet could be bought for pennies on the dollar because he’s lost his new toy value. Some formats just have wonky goalie value. I’m still gonna consider Knight at 17 in my draft and I hate goalies.
Dorofeyev is an interesting case because some GMs are grabbing him right about where you’d expect before his NHL draft fall, the 20-30 range. He’s been drafted in 18 of 20 drafts, Avg of 30.58, Hi 21, Lo 40 (twice). I personally wouldn’t draft him before 30 but becomes good value after 30 imo. All depends on format as well. This is why I do my best to put context to the Avg, Hi, Lo, etc. Sorry I’m not trying to derail the thread. Please keep posting draft results as I’m tracking every one I can get my hands on. If you wana keep it private you can DM me and I’ll fire up a new thread soon so I’m not constantly bombarding this one.
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20 Team Dynasty (Unique Cap) H2H 23 Man roster - 20 Minor
G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR
C-Hischier,W.Nylander,Benn
LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk,Marchand,Gaudreau
RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
G-Hart,Vanecek
B-Brannstrom,Crouse
Prospects
Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
Entry Draft 5 Rds [<60gp] '23 2,3,3,5
Cap 77.82M/82.5M
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Updating this as we go.
Pick Ovrl Pos Player
1.01 1 F Hughes, Jack - NJ
1.02 2 F Kakko, Kaapo - NYR
1.03 3 F Cozens, Dylan - BUF
1.04 4 F Turcotte, Alex - LA
1.05 5 F Dach, Kirby - CHI
1.06 6 D Byram, Bowen - COL
1.07 7 F Zegras, Trevor - ANA
1.08 8 F Podkolzin, Vasili - VAN
1.09 9 F Caufield, Cole - MON
1.10 10 F Boldy, Matthew - MIN
1.11 11 G Knight, Spencer - FLA
1.12 12 F Kaliyev, Arthur - LA
2.01 13 F Newhook, Alex - COL
2.02 14 F Krebs, Peyton - VGK
2.03 15 F Brink, Bobby - PHI
2.04 16 F Poulin, Samuel - PIT
2.05 17 G Sogaard, Mads - OTT
2.06 18 F Pelletier, Jakob - CGY
2.07 19 D York, Cam - PHI
2.08 20 F Holmström, Simon - NYI
2.09 21 F Suzuki, Ryan - CAR
2.10 22 F Dorofeyev, Pavel - VGK
2.11 23 F Tomasino, Philip - NSH
2.12 24 F Lavoie, Raphaël - EDM
3.01 25 F McMichael, Connor - WSH
3.02 26 D Soderstrom, Victor - ARI
3.03 27 D Seider, Moritz - DET
3.04 28 F Robertson, Nick - TOR
3.05 29 F Firstov, Vladislav - MIN
3.06 30 G Kochetkov, Pyotr - CAR
3.07 31 F Puistola, Patrik - CAR
3.08 32 D Broberg, Philip - EDM
3.09 33 D Heinola, Ville - WPG
3.10 34 G Alnefelt, Hugo - TB
3.11 35 D Harley, Thomas - DAL
3.12 36 F Grewe, Albin - DET
4.01 37 D Thomson, Lassi - OTT
4.02 38 F Hoglander, Nils - VAN
4.03 39 F Beecher, John - BOS
4.04 40 F Nikolaev, Ilya - CGY
4.05 41 G Konovalov, Ilya - EDM
4.06 42 F Afanasyev, Yegor - NSH
4.07 43 F Foote, Nolan - TB
4.08 44 G Jones, Hunter - MIN
4.09 45 F Leason, Brett - WSH
4.10 46 G Wolf, Dustin - CGY
4.11 47 F Mastrosimone, Robert - DET
4.12 48 F Tracey, Brayden - ANA
5.01 49 F Fagemo, Samuel - LA
5.02 50 G Ellis, Colten - STL
5.03 51 F Pinto, Shane - OTT
5.04 52 F Spiridonov, Yegor - SJ
5.05 53 F Rees, Jamieson - CAR
5.06 54 F Tieksola, Tuukka - CAR
5.07 55 D LaCombe, Jackson - ANA
5.08 56 D Bjornfot, Tobias - LA
5.09 57 F Keppen, Ethan - VAN
5.10 58 F Legare, Nathan - PIT
5.11 59 D Honka, Anttoni - CAR
5.12 60 D Jones, Zachary - NYR
This draft is now complete.
Last edited by stevegamer; July 11, 2019 at 10:25 PM. Reason: Draft now complete.
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I continue to be amazed how high Knight is going - especially after Bob signed in FLA. His wait time to arrive in the show doesn't justify such a high pick. A real head scratcher for sure!
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C - Crosby, MacKinnion, Bergeron, Kopitar and Pageau
LW - Marchand, Pacioretty, Nugent-Hopkins (C) and Vrana
RW - Stone, Voracek, Duclair (LW), T. Wilson and Tanev (LW)
D - Hedman, Doughty, Trouba, Weber and Giordano
G - Holtby, Binnington, Quick and M. Koskinen
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Highlights - Cernak, V. Soderstrom, T. Harley, V. Heinola, R. Andersson, C. Garland, C. Grundstrom, P. Kochetkov
Picks - 2020 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th
Krebs continues to look like a great value pick in these drafts. I've hardly seen him inside the top-10, and that's good value if you're picking outside that range.
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C: Bergeron, Barkov, Aho, Point, Kadri
LW: Marchand, Landeskog, Hertl, Marchessault
RW: Stamkos, Tarasenko, Laine, Palmieri
D: Carlson, Letang, Dumba, Weber, Pietrangelo, Ristolainen, Byfuglien*
G: Bobrovsky, Holtby, Lehner, Greiss-Varlamov
Farm: Turcotte, Cozens, Denisenko, Newhook // Sandin, Jokiharju, Dobson, K'Andre // Shesterkin