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    Hey all.....I need your help with this one. I have someone who wants my MacKinnon (who wouldn't, haha). This is for a league that's not in my sig. it is a weekly h2h 12 team league.....dress 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D, 1UTL and 2G. Cats are G, A, PTS, plus/minus, Pims, PPP, SHP, Hits, BS and SOG for forwards.

    Now, would it be wise for me to trade my MacK for Timo Meier, Jake Guentzel and the 1st overall pick (I would probably pick Kappo Kakko)? I have some pretty strong centerman even without MacK. And Meier and Guentzel would probably be my 2nd rated RW and LW.

    Thoughts? Is this enough for MacK?
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    Cats - G, A, PTS, +/-, PIMS, PPP, SHP, Hits, SOG, BS, W, GAA, S%, S and SO

    C - Crosby, MacKinnion, Bergeron and Kopitar
    LW - Marchand, Pacioretty, Nugent-Hopkins (LW/C) and Vrana (LW/RW)
    RW - Stone, Voracek, Kessel, T. Wilson and Connolly (RW/LW)
    D - Hedman, Doughty, OEL, Weber, Giordano and Cernak
    G - Holtby, Jones, Quick and M. Smith
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    Highlights - Ty Smith, V. Soderstrom, A. Turcotte, B. Brink, T. Harley, V. Heinola, R. Andersson, C. Garland, C. Grundstrom, M. Koskinen, P. Kochetkov
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    Default Re: Trade my MacKinnon

    i wouldnt

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    Seems like a pretty shallow league so I’d probably hold macky.

    Is this dynasty or keeper? If the league was like 20 teams and 25 roster deep then maybe I could consider this as depth is important. But here it seems too end talent is needed. Those are all great pieces and wow I wish I had those on my teams but macky is just better
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    Quote Originally Posted by newper114 View Post
    Seems like a pretty shallow league so I’d probably hold macky.

    Is this dynasty or keeper? If the league was like 20 teams and 25 roster deep then maybe I could consider this as depth is important. But here it seems too end talent is needed.
    Each team has a 23 player roster and it's a dynasty league. I'm built to win now, but this offer had me thinking about it and that's why I had to ask on here. It's a fairly respectable offer. For what it's worth, my other centres are Crosby, Bergeron, Monahan and Kopitar.

    Anyone else with thoughts on this?
    12 team dynasty, weekly H2H, daily starts
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    Cats - G, A, PTS, +/-, PIMS, PPP, SHP, Hits, SOG, BS, W, GAA, S%, S and SO

    C - Crosby, MacKinnion, Bergeron and Kopitar
    LW - Marchand, Pacioretty, Nugent-Hopkins (LW/C) and Vrana (LW/RW)
    RW - Stone, Voracek, Kessel, T. Wilson and Connolly (RW/LW)
    D - Hedman, Doughty, OEL, Weber, Giordano and Cernak
    G - Holtby, Jones, Quick and M. Smith
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    I wouldn't call this a shallow league in any way shape or form. You're starting 16 out of 23 rostered in a 12 team dynasty league. 12 x 23 = 276 players rostered, assuming no farms. That seems pretty average to me for leagues as a whole.

    I'd do this deal for Crosby in a minute, but I doubt you get that to work.

    Who would be your drops with this deal, and how did Meier, Guentzel, and MacKinnon rank in their positions last year, league-wide?

    Where are you picking in the first round ( if anywhere) if you don't do this deal?

    Have you heard about offers that guy has passed up for #1 overall or even other deals for #2 overall? I'm thinking you could do really well making the deal, and then flipping the pick for a more proven asset.
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    G: F Andersen
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    D: Hainsey, M Reilly, Carlson, Gustafsson, Klingberg, Letang,
    F1: Couturier, Giroux, MacKinnon
    F2: Schiefele, Wheeler, Guentzel
    F3: Benn, Seguin, Pavelski,
    F4: Point, Stamkos, Tavares

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    D: Gardiner, Gostisbehere, Schultz, Werenski
    F: Bailey, Johnsson, Killorn, Labanc, JT Miller, Necas, Tuch, Voracek

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    I wouldn't trade my Mack for that. Not even close.
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    Scoring: (G=1) (A=1) (W=2) (SO=1) (SV=0.01)

    Pre-Draft Lineup: McDavid, MacKinnon, Panarin, DeBrincat, Boeser, Nylander, Granlund, Hedman, Klingberg, Krug, Makar, Vasilevskiy, Bobrovsky

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    I say no deal as well.
    If you are goin to move MacK, make him available to the league, field some offer, and then at worst drive up the price on the original offer.
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    Reason I like it: It's added depth in a dynasty (though still push to get a little more or shop him to the league).
    Reason I don't: Most of your other centers are getting old.
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    No way I’m moving a Top 3 fantasy asset for that return .. id need back a top 20 asset like Marner + Guentzel ++
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    I wouldn't call this a shallow league in any way shape or form. You're starting 16 out of 23 rostered in a 12 team dynasty league. 12 x 23 = 276 players rostered, assuming no farms. That seems pretty average to me for leagues as a whole.

    I'd do this deal for Crosby in a minute, but I doubt you get that to work.

    Who would be your drops with this deal, and how did Meier, Guentzel, and MacKinnon rank in their positions last year, league-wide?

    Where are you picking in the first round ( if anywhere) if you don't do this deal?

    Have you heard about offers that guy has passed up for #1 overall or even other deals for #2 overall? I'm thinking you could do really well making the deal, and then flipping the pick for a more proven asset.
    Good questions/analysis here IMO. Let's assume Mack is a consistent 100ish pt player moving forward... Guentzal is most likely a 70-85 pt guy...Meier a 70ish pt guy with upside and Kaapo a 60 pt guy as early as next year with 90ish+ pt upside... Seems like some decent depth in a keeper league...Maybe not quite enough to pull the trigger, but if you can tweak it more in your favour it seems decent to me..but of course, it depends on who else you're losing from your roster.
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    Shop Crosby instead and build around MacKinnon, IMO.

    We're gradually approaching the window of opportunity where GMs might start shopping Sid to get top value before a decline hits. He's got a few real elite years left but when he starts trending down MacKinnon will be in his prime.

    If you can build up your depth AND get a little younger in the process it'll be better for your long term competitiveness.
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    Scoring: (G=1) (A=1) (W=2) (SO=1) (SV=0.01)

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    Quote Originally Posted by varlytime View Post
    No way I’m moving a Top 3 fantasy asset for that return .. id need back a top 20 asset like Marner + Guentzel ++
    Note that he'd be getting Guentzel with Meier and the #1 overall as the pluses.
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    G: F Andersen
    Backup G: Holtby
    D: Hainsey, M Reilly, Carlson, Gustafsson, Klingberg, Letang,
    F1: Couturier, Giroux, MacKinnon
    F2: Schiefele, Wheeler, Guentzel
    F3: Benn, Seguin, Pavelski,
    F4: Point, Stamkos, Tavares

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    D: Gardiner, Gostisbehere, Schultz, Werenski
    F: Bailey, Johnsson, Killorn, Labanc, JT Miller, Necas, Tuch, Voracek

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    I put the call out to the whole league to throw some offers my way for MacK......we will see what happens. Thanks for the great insight on everything. I will be keeping MacK unless something crazy comes my way in these offers.

    I'm actually shopping Crosby as well (thanks Frozen Inferno) for some good young players. Thanks for the input, it has been really valuable for me.
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    3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D, 1UTL, 2G, 7 Bench - 23 player roster, unlimited farm system
    Cats - G, A, PTS, +/-, PIMS, PPP, SHP, Hits, SOG, BS, W, GAA, S%, S and SO

    C - Crosby, MacKinnion, Bergeron and Kopitar
    LW - Marchand, Pacioretty, Nugent-Hopkins (LW/C) and Vrana (LW/RW)
    RW - Stone, Voracek, Kessel, T. Wilson and Connolly (RW/LW)
    D - Hedman, Doughty, OEL, Weber, Giordano and Cernak
    G - Holtby, Jones, Quick and M. Smith
    Farm
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