If you can get that for sure go for it, but I would never give up Nico Hischer for the 5th overall
Hey Dobbertown, I've been thinking of offering my 5th overall pick in this year's entry draft (only 2019 draftees available) for Nico Hischer. Do you think this is a good move? I'm just looking at upside, the fact that I'd be waiting on the fifth overall player doesn't bother me.
In other words, how does the upside Hischer compare to who I'd get at 5th (Turcotte, Caufield, Byram, Dach, Cozens...)
Thanks
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If you can get that for sure go for it, but I would never give up Nico Hischer for the 5th overall
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Go for it. Chances are you'll be adding though.
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If I had Hischier I’d pass on any draft pick outside of 1st or 2nd.
That said I would fully endorse attempting the swap and if you can pull it off that would be a huge win for you.
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If you can get Hischer for the 5th overall pick in a dynasty league, take it and run. No prudent manager would accept this deal in my opinion though.
You can offer it, but as a Hischier owner I would turn it down without a second thought.
Hischer >>>>> #5. In 4years this post could be laughable depending what Turcotte/Cozens/Podkolzin/Byram/Krebs/Dach/Zegras turn into, but in today's context it's not close.
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Definitely add in a pick or player if you want to try and acquire him. If not, I doubt you'll get him for the 5th OA straight up.
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I don't think it's nearly enough, but maybe the guy loves acquiring draft picks, and hates players once he drafts them. If that's the case, take a shot. If it works, use again in the future.
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I'd send the offer. You never know. People get horny at draft time for the excitement of making an early pick so it might fly. Only one way to find out.
I, like the others, wouldn't take it straight up but it doesn't hurt to ask.
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I see that everyone is pretty unanimously saying that Hischier is worth more than the 5th overall. Is this taking into account that he more likely becomes the #2 C on that team if they draft Hughes? I mean surely the other GM has to have considered that...
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16 team Pts only dynasty league
G, A, PPG, SHG, GWG, Svs, SO's, W's
Pro Roster Starters: 9 F, 6 D 1 G
FWD: Hertl, Forsberg, Quinn, Rantanen, Debrincat, Couturier, Dach, Trocheck, Larkin, Seguin
D: Chychrun, Grzelcyk, Trouba, Burns, Walman, Karlsson, Graves
G: Kahkkonen, Keumper, Reimer
Farm (notables):
F: Pekarcik, Dellandrea, Cowan, Puistola, Halttunen, Simoneau, Bolduc, Nadeau, Stankhoven
D: Brzustewicz, Alexeyev, Jiricek, Reinbacher, Minnetian
G: Fedotov, Tarasov, Kochetkov, Skarek, M. Gibson
Not trying to say that Hischier is the same as Malkin or Kuz, but he's closer to them than he is far away.
I think the addition of Hughes actually helps him, and he's 100% worth the 5th overall.
If you have to add, it depends what that is. I agree it shouldn't be a large add.
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There's also nothing to say that Hughes doesn't become the 2C behind Hischier as well. We don't know. Same as we don't know about the 5th overall and what they will be. What we do know is that Nico Hischier is a pretty good player in the NHL today, with or without Jack Hughes coming in. We also are assuming that Hughes is the guy that NJ ends up drafting first overall. What if they screw everybody up and go with Kakko?
So many unknowns except the one known. Hischier is a pretty good, young, NHL player. The rest is unknown.
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Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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