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    31 team league, permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, 1 G, 8 prospects. Expose 10.
    Skaters -- gp 1, g 25, a 20, +/- 10, shots 2, S/PPP 5, hit 1, Block 2, PIM 1, TOI 0.2/min

    # = FP/mln$

    F 12
    BRAYDEN POINT 4913
    JONATHAN HUBERDEAU 517
    MIKA ZIBANEJAD 533
    JONATHAN MARCHESSAULT 509
    PHIL KESSEL 332
    JOSH ANDERSON 582
    JOSH BAILEY 415
    NICK FOLIGNO 342
    VINCENT HINOSTROZA 1077
    ADAM HENRIQUE 309
    DEVIN SHORE 540
    TYLER MOTTE 1146
    -- Reserve
    JONATHAN DAHLEN
    SASHA CHMELEVSKI
    -- Exposed
    RILEY BARBER
    ZEMGUS GIRGENSONS
    DEREK GRANT
    SETH GRIFFITH
    ILYA MIKHEYEV
    ALAN QUINE

    D 6
    KRIS LETANG 391
    COLTON PARAYKO 400
    RADKO GUDAS 532
    MATT GRZELCYK 934
    MATT NISKANEN 315
    CONNOR MURPHY 314
    -- Reserve
    JAKE WALMAN
    LOUIS BELPEDIO
    -- Exposed
    MARIO FERRARO
    TREVOR MURPHY
    YANNICK RATHGEB
    +1 empty

    G 1
    Holtby 414
    -- Reserve
    LAURENT BROSSOIT 1377
    ELVIS MERZLIKINS

    Problem: $0.8mln cap space and Point's pending >$9mln raise.
    Block (?): Henrique $5.8M/1790fp (143rd best F), Foligno $5.5M/1879fp (131 best F), Niskanen $5.8M/1814fp (48th best D)
    They are pretty solid ... with a full league and rosters (ie. 31*12=372 rostered F, 186 D)
    That said it's a full cap league, they are relatively expensive and likely just past their prime.
    Their trade value isn't super high. ie. I picked up Connor Murphy for picks 2021 ~55 overall and 2021 ~85 overall. Nick Foligno for 2019 85th overall + Eggenberger

    That said, what do you think Henrique's value is? I can't really take back a lot of salary. Reality is 30yo over paid guys are not worth a lot and prospects are overvalued.
    Any thoughts on my block? who of them I should move 1st?
    Inclined to move 1, wait and see what the cap raise is ($4mln?)
    Receiving picks in return also is helpful for the exposed list ... but getting back a 1st (1-31) is out of the question. Getting back pick 32-62 for 30% of a 3rd liner (in 3 years) in exchange for a 2nd liner doesn't seem to make sense to me (?). I suggested something like Benson for Henrique.
    Most of my league follows this forum ... so they know who I am ... but anyways I'm always open to fair trades and fair advice, so fire away.
    31 team permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, +1 Skater, 2G, 5 Reserve, 8 Prospects (744 skaters, 62 goalies, 248 prospects)
    Goalie - 20 W, 2.5 save, -15 GA, 15 SO
    Skater - 25 point, 2 PIM, 1 Hit, 2 Block, +/- 10, TOI 0.2/min, Special team points +5, Fight 5
    Strict NHL salary cap & floor

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    The thing is that the guys you're going to want to shop won't get you much return, and the guys you're going to want to keep will get the most trade interest.
    Niskanen and Henrique are probably droppable. Kessel is the first guy I would look to trade. He's already one of the lowest value for money guys on your roster, and he's not going to out-perform a point per game with 35 pops.
    The other thing I might try and do is trade Holtby for a bit of a lesser/cheaper goalie. Maybe someone like Greiss, Raanta, etc. Save a bit and you won't lose much production.
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    Yeah I hear you Eskimo Bro.
    31 team permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, +1 Skater, 2G, 5 Reserve, 8 Prospects (744 skaters, 62 goalies, 248 prospects)
    Goalie - 20 W, 2.5 save, -15 GA, 15 SO
    Skater - 25 point, 2 PIM, 1 Hit, 2 Block, +/- 10, TOI 0.2/min, Special team points +5, Fight 5
    Strict NHL salary cap & floor

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    Getting names like
    Damiani
    Rathbone
    Madden
    Sanford
    31 team permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, +1 Skater, 2G, 5 Reserve, 8 Prospects (744 skaters, 62 goalies, 248 prospects)
    Goalie - 20 W, 2.5 save, -15 GA, 15 SO
    Skater - 25 point, 2 PIM, 1 Hit, 2 Block, +/- 10, TOI 0.2/min, Special team points +5, Fight 5
    Strict NHL salary cap & floor

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLight View Post
    Getting names like
    Damiani
    Rathbone
    Madden
    Sanford
    What do you mean by this?
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    for the guys on my block (Niskanen, Foligno, Henrique) I am being offered 1 for 1 Damiani, Rathbone, Madden, Sanford ... more or less
    31 team permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, +1 Skater, 2G, 5 Reserve, 8 Prospects (744 skaters, 62 goalies, 248 prospects)
    Goalie - 20 W, 2.5 save, -15 GA, 15 SO
    Skater - 25 point, 2 PIM, 1 Hit, 2 Block, +/- 10, TOI 0.2/min, Special team points +5, Fight 5
    Strict NHL salary cap & floor

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    I would take Damiani for Niskanen. You're not likely getting anything better for him.
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    Thanks. You like him more than madden?
    31 team permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, +1 Skater, 2G, 5 Reserve, 8 Prospects (744 skaters, 62 goalies, 248 prospects)
    Goalie - 20 W, 2.5 save, -15 GA, 15 SO
    Skater - 25 point, 2 PIM, 1 Hit, 2 Block, +/- 10, TOI 0.2/min, Special team points +5, Fight 5
    Strict NHL salary cap & floor

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    You could go for either. I don't know Madden that well, but dobbesrprospets seems to be high on him. Could be the better play over Damiani.
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    I'd take any remotely decent prospect for the guys you've got on your block. They are somewhat fungible, so I think you might be able to find similar value on the wire.
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    G: Bobrovsky
    Backup G: F Andersen
    D: Ekblad, Yandle, M Reilly, Carlson, Klingberg, Letang
    F1: Couturier, Giroux, Voracek
    F2: Schiefele, Wheeler, Guentzel
    F3: Benn, Seguin, Pavelski
    F4: Stamkos, Tavares, MacKinnon


    Bench:
    Injured: Point
    G: Holtby
    D: Gardiner, Gustafsson, Makar, Morrissey
    F: Bailey, Bertuzzi, Cirelli, Johnsson, Labanc, JT Miller, Necas
    Reserve: Datsyuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    I'd take any remotely decent prospect for the guys you've got on your block. They are somewhat fungible, so I think you might be able to find similar value on the wire.
    Thanks guys. Just for some perspective:
    Block: Henrique $5.8M/1790fp (143rd best F), Foligno $5.5M/1879fp (131 best F), Niskanen $5.8M/1814fp (48th best D)
    That's:
    143rd out of 372
    131st out of 372
    48th out of 186

    These guys aren't remotely droppable, nor even close to what is on the waiver wire. They earned 1790, 1879 and 1814 fantasy points last year. The top waiver wire F & D earned 1065 (almost 1/2 the production) and 792 (less than 1/2 the production) fantasy points, respectively, last year. I'd be looking at Trevor Lewis and Ben Harpur.
    31 team permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, +1 Skater, 2G, 5 Reserve, 8 Prospects (744 skaters, 62 goalies, 248 prospects)
    Goalie - 20 W, 2.5 save, -15 GA, 15 SO
    Skater - 25 point, 2 PIM, 1 Hit, 2 Block, +/- 10, TOI 0.2/min, Special team points +5, Fight 5
    Strict NHL salary cap & floor

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    Sanford for Henrique?
    31 team permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, +1 Skater, 2G, 5 Reserve, 8 Prospects (744 skaters, 62 goalies, 248 prospects)
    Goalie - 20 W, 2.5 save, -15 GA, 15 SO
    Skater - 25 point, 2 PIM, 1 Hit, 2 Block, +/- 10, TOI 0.2/min, Special team points +5, Fight 5
    Strict NHL salary cap & floor

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    I took Sanford for Henrique.

    Thoughts please on:
    Tufte, DAL -- 6.5/7, big but he is fast/agile enough. Moving up the P ranks. Arrival 2021
    Parsons, CAL -- G, could be ok. Arrival 2022
    Foegele, CAR -- 6/8.5, PNHLe 17pts, did well in playoffs -- 23, $800k FP 845

    For

    Niskanen 32, $5.75, FP 1,814
    Brossoit 26, $650k, FP 1,084 (rule change consideration)
    Foligno 31, $5.5, FP 1,880
    31 team permanent keeper. 12F, 6D, +1 Skater, 2G, 5 Reserve, 8 Prospects (744 skaters, 62 goalies, 248 prospects)
    Goalie - 20 W, 2.5 save, -15 GA, 15 SO
    Skater - 25 point, 2 PIM, 1 Hit, 2 Block, +/- 10, TOI 0.2/min, Special team points +5, Fight 5
    Strict NHL salary cap & floor

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLight View Post
    Thanks guys. Just for some perspective:
    Block: Henrique $5.8M/1790fp (143rd best F), Foligno $5.5M/1879fp (131 best F), Niskanen $5.8M/1814fp (48th best D)
    That's:
    143rd out of 372
    131st out of 372
    48th out of 186

    These guys aren't remotely droppable, nor even close to what is on the waiver wire. They earned 1790, 1879 and 1814 fantasy points last year. The top waiver wire F & D earned 1065 (almost 1/2 the production) and 792 (less than 1/2 the production) fantasy points, respectively, last year. I'd be looking at Trevor Lewis and Ben Harpur.
    Harpur is an upgrade to your cap roster. He is making 0.725 million this year which is 12.5% of what Niskanen makes for ~40% of the production. He's also young, and on a team where there is playing time to be had - I suspect Cody Ceci is on his way out of Ottawa as he will cost too much. They can't have a competitive salary on a decent player when they have over $11 million in dead money.

    I really like the deal where you get Foegele, but I don't want to give up Brossoit to do it. If you can do it without the goalies, it's a win.
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    G: Bobrovsky
    Backup G: F Andersen
    D: Ekblad, Yandle, M Reilly, Carlson, Klingberg, Letang
    F1: Couturier, Giroux, Voracek
    F2: Schiefele, Wheeler, Guentzel
    F3: Benn, Seguin, Pavelski
    F4: Stamkos, Tavares, MacKinnon


    Bench:
    Injured: Point
    G: Holtby
    D: Gardiner, Gustafsson, Makar, Morrissey
    F: Bailey, Bertuzzi, Cirelli, Johnsson, Labanc, JT Miller, Necas
    Reserve: Datsyuk

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