Knights-Sharks Ref Won't Officiate 2nd Round

[LawMan]

Obviously a good call (pun intended) by the NHL. Pretty hollow win for the Knights.

Two referees who worked the controversial Game 7 between the Vegas Golden Knights and San Jose Sharks in the first round will not officiate in the second round.

Dan O'Halloran and Eric Furlatt were on the ice for a pivotal major penalty call in the third period that gave the Sharks a five-minute power play.

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/2...iate-2nd-round

[lucafen4]

Well... half the 1st round crews get cut into the second round anyway....

Only the best crews move on.. It's a huge deal to them too, to get to and work the Cup Finals.

[Godin]

[QUOTE=LawMan;1975339]Obviously a good call (pun intended) by the NHL. Pretty hollow win for the Knights.


Yes. No 2nd round for you!!!

[forumname]

Well... half the 1st round crews get cut into the second round anyway....

Only the best crews move on.. It's a huge deal to them too, to get to and work the Cup Finals.

I haven't read the article, but this is exactly the type of info that always gets left out. Yes, they aren't working the 2nd round, but there's a ~50% chance they wouldn't have anyways.

[rataylor22]

I haven't read the article, but this is exactly the type of info that always gets left out. Yes, they aren't working the 2nd round, but there's a ~50% chance they wouldn't have anyways.

No there wasn't

https://scoutingtherefs.com/2019/04/...-cup-playoffs/

O’Halloran and Furlatt officiated Game 7 between the Sharks and Golden Knights, which included a pivotal major penalty call against Vegas; San Jose scored four times on the ensuing power play en route to a 5-4 win. O’Halloran hasn’t missed a Conference Final round in over a decade and leads all active referees with 212 playoff games.

[SeaDawg]

No question it was a bad call. And I'm sure this has been said before, but if San Jose had not scored on the PP, or only scored one or two goals, this would be a non-issue. It is pretty darn convenient for Vegas to blame all of this on the refereeing. If a team can't stop another team from scoring 4 goals on one 5-minute major, they deserve to lose the game.

[Godin]

No question it was a bad call. And I'm sure this has been said before, but if San Jose had not scored on the PP, or only scored one or two goals, this would be a non-issue. It is pretty darn convenient for Vegas to blame all of this on the refereeing. If a team can't stop another team from scoring 4 goals on one 5-minute major, they deserve to lose the game.

Still doesn't make it right. Shouldn't have been a penalty and Vegas shouldn't have been put in that position. Hard to accept a brutal call in a game 7 from the 'best' referee's. Gallant would be the one to blame here after the referee's who probably should have given the Sharks a 5 minute major for something to even things up to see how the Sharks would have fared. That would have been fair.

[ericdaoust]

Bad officiating in general is the problem here. These guys are instructed to let a lot of stuff go and it's pretty much universal at this time of the year. In the end most of the penalties called don't make sense within the context of the game being played because a ton of equal or worse stuff is let go intentionally. And when something does happen you will probably get a cheap make-up call.

[Rylant]

No question it was a bad call. And I'm sure this has been said before, but if San Jose had not scored on the PP, or only scored one or two goals, this would be a non-issue. It is pretty darn convenient for Vegas to blame all of this on the refereeing. If a team can't stop another team from scoring 4 goals on one 5-minute major, they deserve to lose the game.

If it's a 5 minute major that never should have been called in the first place, then that is pretty relevant, don't you think?

Rylant

[stevegamer]

Are there really a large number of people who felt that it wasn't even a minor? I thought the issue was it being a major, and Vegas then crapping the bed on the penalty kill.

[SeaDawg]

If it's a 5 minute major that never should have been called in the first place, then that is pretty relevant, don't you think?

Rylant

obviously the blown call is relevant, but if Vegas can't stop a team from scoring 4 goals on the same penalty, they don't deserve to win, in my opinion.

[SeaDawg]

Bad officiating in general is the problem here. These guys are instructed to let a lot of stuff go and it's pretty much universal at this time of the year. In the end most of the penalties called don't make sense within the context of the game being played because a ton of equal or worse stuff is let go intentionally. And when something does happen you will probably get a cheap make-up call.

honestly, this is the bigger issue I have. Most of the regular season, what is and is not a penalty is relatively-speaking fairly straightforward. Come playoff time, so many incidents that would have been a penalty in the regular season are not called unless a player is injured, a scoring play was prevented because of the penalty, or a scoring play was created because of the penalty. It is a bit of a joke, really. IMO, penalties should be called consistently all year, no matter the time of year nor the time of the game. Heck, with a minute to go in regulation and a team down by a goal with the extra attacker, you can pretty much do whatever you want without worrying about getting a penalty called against you.

[2014olympicgold]

About time the refs get punished for poor performance.

[STONE.]

About time the refs get punished for poor performance.

I actually think there's a level of protection happening here as well. If they are back for round three (which maybe isn't possible if out for round two), I'm guessing this is a way to let things cool down and ensure they don't have too much scrutiny immediately after what has clearly been an error. Smart for the league to hold them out for multiple reasons IMO.

And I'm always reluctant to be too critical--especially in a situation like this one. Always remember that you're getting to see these things multiple times, in slo-mo, after the incident. And if there was an actual penalty and Pavelski was bleeding on the ice with a no-call the criticism is equally (if not more) harsh. Just saying....

[2014olympicgold]

I actually think there's a level of protection happening here as well. If they are back for round three (which maybe isn't possible if out for round two), I'm guessing this is a way to let things cool down and ensure they don't have too much scrutiny immediately after what has clearly been an error. Smart for the league to hold them out for multiple reasons IMO.

And I'm always reluctant to be too critical--especially in a situation like this one. Always remember that you're getting to see these things multiple times, in slo-mo, after the incident. And if there was an actual penalty and Pavelski was bleeding on the ice with a no-call the criticism is equally (if not more) harsh. Just saying....

They gave the penalty to the wrong guy even....Pavelski was hit twice, and the second hit was the one that should have been called.

Refs blew it and called the penalty based off injury not the play. Which was happening all playoffs because the refs don't call penalties in game 83 as they do in 82. And they went heavily off injury on this one as the actual hits were not a 5min penalty but because it somehow cut the back of his head through his helmet is the reason it was 5min.

League admitted they missed a call (I keep saying missed, but got the call wrong) and now the people who missed it are punished. As it should be. Refs are protected from missed calls too much in my opinion.