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    I've been offered any 3 of them OR Petersson, Karlsson, Burns - I just assume they're the top 3.

    This guy has Vasilevski and won't move him, says he's worth more than McDavid etc.

    It's a king's ransom, but he's still set to dominate our league. Goaltending (W,SV%,SO) count for 3/9 roto stats.

    Gibson is killing me.

    I'd have to trade away Benn & Malkin.

    Would you do this trade no matter what?

    What goalies would you target?

    (I'd offer up all of Benn, Malkin and Gibson for an upgrade in net)

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    Default Re: Trade away McDavid for Kane, Stamkos, Point

    You can only keep 5, so the quantity approach here isnt all its cracked up to be.
    Trading Benn and Malkin is a good idea. Malkin is an injury festival, not sure what Benn's deal is but a decline occured. You wold be selling low on him though.
    That being said, McDavid is overrated as long as he is a Soiler. He will never become the top fantasy player in the league as long as he remains with that organization. In my league, his teammate, Draisiatl out-produces him, along with Kucherov and a handful of others.
    If you really want to move him, there's a lot of work to do to maximize your return and set yourself up. If I could get Pettersson, Point and a 3rd elite asset for the guy I would be pretty satisfied. Or you could go Burns if you are win-now mode, EK also works. I would try to squeeze out a pick or whatever else I could from the OGM as well. Then you put your trading pants on and move your excess assets for upgrades. MacK, Point, Pettersson are your 3 keepers. Then you trade your ass off and bring in two more really good ones, preferably one is a G.



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    McDavid, Malkin, Benn for Kane, Stamkos, Point? I'll pass. In a keep 5 you need more than that, especially when your 4-5 keeper slots are very solid players.
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    In a keep 5, I'm not trading McDavid, period.
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    Definitely DON'T do this trade in a keep 5 during the off season. I'd consider it if he offers this at the very start of the season and you could just drop a couple scrubs.

    I offered someone Huberdeau, Tarasenko and Seguin a couple months ago and it was turned down, when it arguably may have won him this year's championship.
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    This is a hard pass for me.

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    Default Re: Trade away McDavid for Kane, Stamkos, Point

    Yea, that's a pass for me as well considering it's a keep 5.

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    I'd pass on that at this moment. That's an in-season deal, not an off-season deal.

    Your issue is that you have some guys who underperformed and a keeper goalie in league where keeping a non-elite fantasy goalie doesn't help much.

    Gibson is a really, really good goalie. But, 2 of your stats are team based, and one of those is fairly random. So unless you are keeping a good or better save percentage goalie (Gibson-check) on a good or better team (Anaheim - no check), it won't help. Anaheim may get back there, but who knows when - they are old and coaching is uncertain.
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    Donít trade away McDavid, especially in a keep 5. Iím fine with shopping Benn and Malkin for an upgrade in net If you really want to keep a goalie.

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    As all others have basically said - in a keep 5, don't be the GM that traded away McD.

    Short answer is you're fine, even with the down years on Benn and ANA. In a 20-team, I'm still feeling good about my chances next year.

    Obviously if you can find another GM who's keen on Benn for a premium return, then you explore, but my 2c is to not fret about this year's stats too much and enjoy a McD/Mack/Malkin/Gibby core in a keep 5.
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    Default Re: Trade away McDavid for Kane, Stamkos, Point

    Simplest answer is you keep mcdavid in a keep 5. The only way you consider moving him is at the beginning of a season or near the deadline where the trade all but guarantees you the win. Even then, it's a tough decision.

    The worst time to move mcdavid in a limited keeper is at the end of a season, in my opinion. I'm holding him almost always in a keep 5.
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    Keep McDavid!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MZac View Post
    Simplest answer is you keep mcdavid in a keep 5. The only way you consider moving him is at the beginning of a season or near the deadline where the trade all but guarantees you the win. Even then, it's a tough decision.

    The worst time to move mcdavid in a limited keeper is at the end of a season, in my opinion. I'm holding him almost always in a keep 5.
    this and what others have said..not now, MAYBE in season
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    Thanks for all the input!

    I get what you mean about trading him mid-season, if anything.

    But what about IF I can land Vasilevski?

    At this point I'd love to do McDavid + Gibson for Vas + 1 or 2 keepers
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    It depends on the other two keepers you're getting. If they're both top 20 guys, then I consider it. If not, I'll pass even without knowing the names.
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