Pacific Semi: (2) San Jose Sharks vs Vegas Golden Knights

[Rylant]

We are talking about two completely different things in that we all agree that sports officiating is not very good and is not getting any better. NHL reffing is very inconsistent. It always has been and it likely always will be as the game moves way too fast to be caught in real time with human eyes.

In this play in particular, the refs barely saw what happened but they saw enough to have seen a cross check. They then saw a guy lying unconscious on the ice because of the cross check. There is no ref in the world that is going to give a minor penalty for a cross check that ends up with a guy lying on the ice unconscious and bleeding.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Besides, if the refs "barely saw what happened" as you have suggested, then they weren't in a good position to make that call, were they? How can you make that call if you didn't get a good view of it?

Rylant

[audiopile]

That Eakin goal was also deflected in with at high stick and was allowed. Also affected momentum. What ever, it happened, it was fun to watch, glad I did. Time for round 2...

[skinnypete88]

It is inherent in the rules for officials to use their own discretion when awarding a double minor or major penalty. The justification for a double minor or penalty is entirely based on the result, if a high stick results in bleeding, it is a double minor.

To make calls solely on the action and not the result is ludicrous. That's why we have manslaughter.

[rataylor22]

Four different writers at The Athletic all said it was the wrong call, all with pretty different prior histories in terms of "old school" hockey tolerance:

https://theathletic.com/942741/2019/...-joe-pavelski/

Former NHL ref Kerry Fraser said it was the wrong call

Kerry Fraser @kfraserthecall 16h

Jim...I felt sick in the pit of my stomach. Mistakes are made, we all made enough of them, but a cross-check SHOVE to the chest area in this case was not the overriding caused of Pav’s awkwark fall/injury. Incidental contact from Stastny resulted in bad ending.

Kerry Fraser @kfraserthecall 15h

Happens often where extended arm shoves in a cross-check motion, either putting players to the ice from behind in front of the net, in open ice or into the boards dangerously are deemed a “battle” & go unpenalized. This was result oriented & my “guess”; not viewed clearly.

And the NHL apologized for making the wrong call, both to George McPhee

Jesse Granger @JesseGranger_ 20m

George McPhee said the NHL did reach out to him, and appologized for the officiating in Game 7.

“They made a mistake and I’m sure they feel bad about it.”

And in their decisions of which refs continue reffing in the playoffs:

https://scoutingtherefs.com/2019/04/...-cup-playoffs/

Out from Round 1: Eric Furlatt, Trevor Hanson, Jean Hebert, Chris Lee, Jon McIsaac, Brad Meier, Dan O’Halloran, Kyle Rehman

O’Halloran and Furlatt officiated Game 7 between the Sharks and Golden Knights, which included a pivotal major penalty call against Vegas; San Jose scored four times on the ensuing power play en route to a 5-4 win. O’Halloran hasn’t missed a Conference Final round in over a decade.

Look it was simply the wrong call. It's ok to just say it was a bad call and move on.

[chuckcouples]

Let's not forget that Vegas only won Game 2 of this series because the refs blew a "goaltender interference" call on Logan Couture that resulted in a a goal being waived off, Couture getting assessed a penalty, Vlasic getting hurt on the ensuing PK and Vegas scoring the game winner on that PP.

If that goal counted and/or no PP was given, this series would have been over well before game 7. The Sharks were 4-0 in games that Vlasic finished and were tied at 3 when he left game 2. If any call changed this series, it could be argued that this was actually the call the affected the series in a much greater although less dramatic fashion.

[rataylor22]

Let's not forget that Vegas only won Game 2 of this series because the refs blew a "goaltender interference" call on Logan Couture that resulted in a a goal being waived off, Couture getting assessed a penalty, Vlasic getting hurt on the ensuing PK and Vegas scoring the game winner on that PP.

If that goal counted and/or no PP was given, this series would have been over well before game 7. The Sharks were 4-0 in games that Vlasic finished and were tied at 3 when he left game 2. If any call changed this series, it could be argued that this was actually the call the affected the series in a much greater although less dramatic fashion.

You mean the one where he actually hit the goalie?

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[PenguinHunter]

You mean the one where he actually hit the goalie?

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Incidental Contact? No goal, but also no penalty should be called.

[rataylor22]

Incidental Contact? No goal, but also no penalty should be called.

Agree