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    I traded 6 first round picks from 2019 for Erik Karlsson + Evan Bouchard. 3 of those picks at the moment (standings wise) are lottery picks which could get 1st overall in 2019. My farm is already very strong so I figured I'd work a deal where I would get rid of my picks since I don't want to drop anyone in my farm. Maybe I did lose value but I think Bouchard alone is worth a top 10 pick, Erik Karlsson I thought was worth the rest, if none of the picks win the draft lottery I think it's basically lots of speculation for some very proven talent. But anyhoo, the commish messaged me and claimed I was drunk when I did the deal and that this may ruin the league. Just wondering what your guys thoughts on 6 first round picks for Erik Karlsson + Evan Bouchard. Thanks

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    Well the problem I have with this is that if 6 first round picks to another team ruins the league then the league was already ruined when you had 6 first round picks before you made this trade. So, I don't buy it.

    The reality is we have a Superstar (E. Karlsson) being traded for a bunch of potential NHL players. One of which (Jack Hughes) has a good likely hood in being a great NHL player, but there's certainly no guarantee that he ever gets to where Karlsson is now. It's likely a team that has a weak farm so the trade ends up being win/win for you and the other GM, which is a lose for every other GM and nothing more.

    I just don't see how this ruins the league. Either way someone had 6 first round picks next season and that someone had to give up a bunch to get them.
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    Well, were you drunk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audiopile View Post
    Well, were you drunk?
    No.

    There is a chance none of the (3) picks become a top 3 pick. I figured the other 3 picks are late first round picks who will be equal to lesser value than the 5 or so worst prospects of my team to begin with. I think it was a good deal for my team, maybe I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    No.

    There is a chance none of the (3) picks become a top 3 pick. I figured the other 3 picks are late first round picks who will be equal to lesser value than the 5 or so worst prospects of my team to begin with. I think it was a good deal for my team, maybe I'm wrong.
    Great deal for your team imo.

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    Nowhere near a league ruiner. Picks are always over-valued in dynasty leagues, I joke with friends that I can get twice as much in return for say the 8th pick in the draft than I can get for the player drafted 8th overall 3 months later.

    You just got a generational talent and the guy who has, by far, the highest ceiling of any Dman in your format, without giving up an actual assets. There's a better than 50% chance that none of the picks you traded play a single minute in the NHL next season. There's also a better than 50% chance that Erik Karlsson outscores the next highest scoring Dman by 10+ points next season. So yeah, the trade makes sense.
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    Thank you for the replies. It's always good to get another persons perspective on a trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
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    I traded 6 first round picks from 2019 for Erik Karlsson + Evan Bouchard. 3 of those picks at the moment (standings wise) are lottery picks which could get 1st overall in 2019. My farm is already very strong so I figured I'd work a deal where I would get rid of my picks since I don't want to drop anyone in my farm. Maybe I did lose value but I think Bouchard alone is worth a top 10 pick, Erik Karlsson I thought was worth the rest, if none of the picks win the draft lottery I think it's basically lots of speculation for some very proven talent. But anyhoo, the commish messaged me and claimed I was drunk when I did the deal and that this may ruin the league. Just wondering what your guys thoughts on 6 first round picks for Erik Karlsson + Evan Bouchard.
    I basically agree with MZac's point above. If one team having too many first round picks will ruin the league, what is the "too many" number? Assigning the picks, say, 4 to Karlsson & 2 to Bouchard, what is crazy or league ruining there?

    One other point, did he tell the league you were drunk, or just you? If he told the league that, you need to correct that, and fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    No.

    There is a chance none of the (3) picks become a top 3 pick. I figured the other 3 picks are late first round picks who will be equal to lesser value than the 5 or so worst prospects of my team to begin with. I think it was a good deal for my team, maybe I'm wrong.
    Heh, don’t get me wrong bud. It’s a good deal for you and won’t ruin the league. Your team isn’t suddenly unbeatable with this deal so I’d just let it blow over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    I basically agree with MZac's point above. If one team having too many first round picks will ruin the league, what is the "too many" number? Assigning the picks, say, 4 to Karlsson & 2 to Bouchard, what is crazy or league ruining there?

    One other point, did he tell the league you were drunk, or just you? If he told the league that, you need to correct that, and fast.
    No, he just told me that in private messaging. He was swearing at me so I put him on blast in the main chat for everyone to see. Sure, maybe a little bit high-school-ish or childish but I did what I did lol. He wasn't happy I made this thread either. Told me not to message him regarding this matter anymore. He frequently reads the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    No, he just told me that in private messaging. He was swearing at me so I put him on blast in the main chat for everyone to see. Sure, maybe a little bit high-school-ish or childish but I did what I did lol. He wasn't happy I made this thread either. Told me not to message him regarding this matter anymore. He frequently reads the forum.
    The fact that he frequently reads this forum should help him realize this deal shouldn't ruin the league.
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    Nothing wrong with this at all. Free market rules. Values are subjective. Your league must be a mess for other reasons if this mildly remarkable trade "ruins" it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Glatt View Post
    Nothing wrong with this at all. Free market rules. Values are subjective. Your league must be a mess for other reasons if this mildly remarkable trade "ruins" it.
    Exactly, I'd hate to see a trade that is actually "league changing" occur... The commish would have a stroke by the sounds of it..
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    Sent a message to your league noting that your six first round picks are up for grabs. I'm curious to see if you can't find a better offer or not. If you can't, that pretty much answers the question. I'm assuming the Comish doesn't also have the power to prevent you from shopping your assets? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    Sent a message to your league noting that your six first round picks are up for grabs. I'm curious to see if you can't find a better offer or not. If you can't, that pretty much answers the question. I'm assuming the Comish doesn't also have the power to prevent you from shopping your assets? lol
    I had them on the trade block I believe for about a week but with only 3-4 other active managers, offers were scarce to come by. This was the first offer really, and knowing me I'm a sucker to make a deal if it's put in-front of me lol.

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