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    League in sig. A few will notice i posted a few days ago about a trade that was offered to me, but not really offered. The manager of this no deal came back to me asking if id do a 1-1 instead of 2-2. Would you guys accept the offer or tell him to go away?

    Give- Benn
    Get- Josi
    12 Team H2H Dynasty League(Inaugural Season)

    3C, 2LW, 2RW, 2W, 4D, 2G, 7BN, 3NA, 2IR, 2IR+

    G, A, PPP, SOG, +/-, HIT, BLK W, SV, SV%, GAA

    C(3)
    Seguin, M.Staal, Krejci, Borgstrom
    LW(2) Benn(C,LW), Forsberg, Hoffman(LW,RW)
    RW(2) Kessel, Tarasenko, Stone
    W(2) Gallagher, Rakell(C,LW,RW), Terry, Buchnevich
    D(4) Hedman, Edler, Gustafsson, Q.Hughes, Cernak, Morrisey
    G(2) Price, Murray, Grubauer

    IR(3)
    NA(3) Samsonov, Suzuki, Bouchard

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    I would keep Benn definately!
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    A couple of thoughts i have on this deal. In the past 2 years and this half year, Josi is the averaged 7th ranked D-man and 37 OA. For Benn in that same span, is the 22nd ranked forward and 32 OA. I feel like i should get more for Benn, but am i being naive, thinking i should get more when this is about what he can net me(at least for d-men)

    In all reality, does this seem like a lateral move or does it help or hurt me?
    12 Team H2H Dynasty League(Inaugural Season)

    3C, 2LW, 2RW, 2W, 4D, 2G, 7BN, 3NA, 2IR, 2IR+

    G, A, PPP, SOG, +/-, HIT, BLK W, SV, SV%, GAA

    C(3)
    Seguin, M.Staal, Krejci, Borgstrom
    LW(2) Benn(C,LW), Forsberg, Hoffman(LW,RW)
    RW(2) Kessel, Tarasenko, Stone
    W(2) Gallagher, Rakell(C,LW,RW), Terry, Buchnevich
    D(4) Hedman, Edler, Gustafsson, Q.Hughes, Cernak, Morrisey
    G(2) Price, Murray, Grubauer

    IR(3)
    NA(3) Samsonov, Suzuki, Bouchard

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    I think you have the LW depth, and need the D depth that this trade makes sense. However, since the GM went back on his "verbal offer" last time, I'd make him pay a little extra to make this lean in your favour. Get him to add picks/prospects at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody0211 View Post
    A couple of thoughts i have on this deal. In the past 2 years and this half year, Josi is the averaged 7th ranked D-man and 37 OA. For Benn in that same span, is the 22nd ranked forward and 32 OA. I feel like i should get more for Benn, but am i being naive, thinking i should get more when this is about what he can net me(at least for d-men)

    In all reality, does this seem like a lateral move or does it help or hurt me?
    I think it helps you, because Josi is only 5 spots overall behind Benn, but is a defender. You start twice as many defenders, and currently have no spare for off nights.
    10 team Head-to-head true dynasty. Roster 33, draft 2, cut down before season. Start 1 G, 1-2 backup G's, 6 D, 12 F arranged in 4 lines of 3. Only categories that matter are Goals, Assists, Save% with a shutout bonus. Having NHL teammates helps.

    G: F Andersen
    Backup G: Holtby
    D: Gardiner, M Reilly, Carlson, Gustafsson, Klingberg, Letang,
    F1: Couturier, Giroux, MacKinnon
    F2: Schiefele, Wheeler, Tuch
    F3: Benn, Seguin, Pavelski
    F4: Point, Stamkos, Tavares

    Bench:
    G: (none)
    D: Ekman-Larsson,Gostisbehere, Werenski
    F: Bailey, Guentzel, Killorn, Labanc, JT Miller, Voracek,
    F: Duclair, Necas, Simon, Sprong,

    Reserve: Datsyuk

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    It's a no for me.

    There IS league formats where Josi's value > Benn's value...
    But not in a 9F/4D format.
    That's very shallow D rostering.

    If it was 9F/6D, then the high-end D would have more "relative value" and Josi would thump up.
    In EITHER league, Josi is the #7D (say)... but his value is (relatively) higher in a 6D league than in a 4D league.

    It's actually a big difference (and hard to understand).

    But still Benn for me in 9F/4D format.

    Personally, in this league, I'm rostering about 8 high end forwards, 1 high end D, then spot filling D2/D3/D4 with high HIT/BLK D-men or those with good scheduling.
    H2H is all about pure-stat-volume... which can sometimes be done just by cycling 4gp/week players.

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    I’d counter with a Benn for Josi + offer. If he doesn’t like it, keep Benn. If he really wants Benn, he’ll come back.

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