Reply With QuoteThe answer is probably to be patient.
Hellebuyck
Another bad outing?
Is it time to trade him while he still has some value?
Or be patient once again?
Keeper's league, points only, 24 teams league Skaters: 1 pt for goal and 1 pt for assist, Goalie, 2 pts for win, + 2 pts for SO
Re: Hellebuyck
The answer is probably to be patient.
10 Owner Keepers. Keep 8
Positions----C:3 LW:3 RW:3 D:6 G:2
Skaters: Assists/Blocks/FOW/Goals/Hits/SOG/STP
*Defense premium 1.5/1 Goalies: GA/SV/W
Kootenay League
C: Draisaitl(c,l), Zibanejad, Beniers, Nelson
RW:Meier(l,r), Kyrou, Tippett, D.Stome(c,r), Stone
LW: Tkachuk(l,r), Panarin, McCann(c,l), Marchessault(l,r),
D: Josi, McAvoy, Morrissey, Montour, Toews, Hronek, Severson, Orlov
G: Gustavsson, Kuemper, Gibson
Re: Hellebuyck
The guy is snake-bit right now so stay patient. A little unfair to say it was a poor outing. The first goal is tipped in by Wheeler. Second goal ricochets in off a guy's head. Third goal didn't actually go in the net (the replay angle created the impression it did it wasn't a shot directly over top the net).
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Yahoo! Limited Keeper (Keep 1C, 1LW, 1RW, 1D, 1G annually; no player is permitted to be protected as a keeper for a period longer than three consecutive years) 10-team H2H League/Daily Starts (# in brackets)
Centre (2): Scheifele, Seguin, Toews
Right Wing (2): Laine (LW/RW) Lindholm (C/RW), Gallagher
Left Wing (2): Tkachuk, Mantha (LW/RW), Lee, Gusev
Defense (4): Ristolainen, Doughty, Gustafsson, Gostisbehere, Byfuglien
Utility (1): Haula (C/LW)
Goalie (2): Andersen, Dubnyk, Raanta
IR:
Skater Stats: G, A, P, +/-, PPP, PIMS, SOG, FOW, Hits, BKS
Goalie Stats: W, SV%, GAA, SO
Re: Hellebuyck
He is playing for a team stack with talent and depth and is save % is not even higher than .910. A little bit concerning...
Keeper's league, points only, 24 teams league Skaters: 1 pt for goal and 1 pt for assist, Goalie, 2 pts for win, + 2 pts for SO
Re: Hellebuyck
In a 24 teams league, I would keep him for sure. Be patient
League 1
10 team, Dynasty, points only, 30 players, keep20 starts 12 F, 6 D, 2G , unlimited prospects(can keep them max 5 years)
F: Mackinnon,Marner, Panarin, Eichel, Fiala, Hughes, Svechnikov, Robertson, Bratt, Kuznetsov, Hischier, B.Tkachuk, M.Tkachuk, Scheifele, Wheeler, Jenner, Drouin, Tatar, Colton
D:Hughes, Hamilton, Karlsson, Dunn, Burns, Theodore, Slavin, Trouba G: Shesterkin, Binnington, Vanecek
League2
Cap league (82.5M with AAV), points only, 12 teams, keep 7, (9F, 4D, 2G)
F: Hughes, Zuccarello,RNH, Marchessault, Scheifele, Toffoli, O’Reilly, Trocheck, Buchnevich extra: Marchenko
D: Makar, Dahlin, Seider, Andersson
G: Hellebuyck, Talbot
Re: Hellebuyck
Patience
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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Re: Hellebuyck
Keep him. Look around the league and think how much worse it could be, it's been a tough year for goalies.
Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2
Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO
Forwards:
C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund
Defense:
B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin
Goalie:
J. Binnington
IR (2 max):
Re: Hellebuyck
I don't see his numbers getting any better under Maurice. He peaked last year and I don't trust this team to go any further than they did last year until Maurice is replaced.
Re: Hellebuyck
I disagree. Maurice is a good coach and I don't know if the results would be any different with someone else. He must be under pressure for sure.Originally Posted by Godin
Helly is trying too hard, like two years ago. He is trying to live up to the contract and it's killing him. He has the skills and the mental toughness. I wonder about a better goalie coach but this year is really ridiculous when it comes to goalies. He doesn't have one shutout this year and outside of Fleury, Andersen and maybe Bob, the rest of the league's starters are pretty well all the same.... average. Weird, weird year and it's exactly how the NHL wants it. Might cause a re-evaluation of goalie value in pools, and soon.
Blades of Steel
9 Team Full Keeper - Pts Only (G,A,W,SO)
Crosby, Wheeler, Bergeron, Forsberg, Connor, Kopitar, E.Lindholm, Pastrnak, DeBrincat, Fiala
Jones, Klingberg, Hamilton, Theodore, Letang
Saros, Shesterkin
Garland, Vrana, Bjorkstrand, Verhaege, Backstrom, Karlsson, Perunovich, Spurgeon, Pulock, Hellebuyck
Re: Hellebuyck
He's like so many other goalies. Momentum is key. When the going is good he's outstanding. When times get tough and he has to play himself out of a bad slump things will continue to be bad.
Craig Anderson comes to mind when it comes to momentum. At times he can win games by himself. Other times, not so much.
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Re: Hellebuyck
So safe to say he’s a buy-low at the moment? Trying to acquire a 2nd goalie for my team
Yahoo! 1 year league, 9 teams, Points only [G (3pts), A (2pts), PPP (1pt), Hits (0.1pt) *** W (4pts), Goals Against (-2pts), SV (0.2pt), SO (3pms)
C: McDavid, Couturier, Kopitar, D.Strome
LW: Guentzel, Connor, Miller, Kaprizov
RW: Stamkos, Stone, Teravainen, Tatar
D: Dahlin, Theodore, Andersson, Dumba
G: Shersterkin, Talbot
Re: Hellebuyck
In a 24 team keeper league, trading Hellebuyck at his low point seems like a bad idea. You'd need a MASSIVE return for this to be worth your while. The Jets will bounce back.
Re: Hellebuyck
Another big win for Brossoit...
It seems that a goalie controversy is coming up...
Keeper's league, points only, 24 teams league Skaters: 1 pt for goal and 1 pt for assist, Goalie, 2 pts for win, + 2 pts for SO
Re: Hellebuyck
Agree with the first line, not with the second. Teams love when their backups win tons of games but make no mistake, this is Hellebuyck's net. His talent and his contract say so. It's almost like Price and Niemi in Montreal. Niemi has been great, even while Price struggled hard earlier this year. Now, there is no doubt, as Price hits his stride. WPG is looking for the same thing by resting Helly yesterday.
Blades of Steel
9 Team Full Keeper - Pts Only (G,A,W,SO)
Crosby, Wheeler, Bergeron, Forsberg, Connor, Kopitar, E.Lindholm, Pastrnak, DeBrincat, Fiala
Jones, Klingberg, Hamilton, Theodore, Letang
Saros, Shesterkin
Garland, Vrana, Bjorkstrand, Verhaege, Backstrom, Karlsson, Perunovich, Spurgeon, Pulock, Hellebuyck
Re: Hellebuyck
I think one of the biggest issues/problems Hellebuyck is having this season that's not getting a lot of attention is the reduced size of goalie equipment. He is one of a number of goalies (can't think of the others atm) who has been very vocal and critical in regards to the rule change(s) that effected the size of the equipment.
12 team H2H, auction draft salary cap, modified keeper league. Keep players at 2X their salary, cap 73M+10% buffer.
Categories: G,A,P,+/-,PPP,SOG,Hits,Wins,Svs,GAA,SV%
C: Stamkos(9.1), Schmaltz(1.0)-LW/C, Backlund(0.8), Little(0.5)
LW: Ovechkin-LW/RW(10.5), Zucker(1.4), Lucic(0.5), Bertuzzi(0.2)
RW: Kucherov(11.7), Zibanejad(1.0), Reinhart-C/RW(1.0), Jenner(0.2)
D: Hedman(9.3), Carlson(7.6), Manson(1.5), Pulock(1.0), Theodore(1.0), Phaneuf(0.1)
G: Hellebuyck(8.2), Vasilevskiy(4.8)
Farm: Hudon(0.3), Byron(0.2), Pearson(0.1), Roslovic(0.1), Starlman(0.2), Dunn(0.1), Saros(0.4), Darling(0.1)
Prospects: Buchnevich, Svechnikov, Bratt, Werenski, Samsonov
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