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    Looking for Dobber experts to provide their thoughts on Heiskanen. Picked him up after his 9 SOG game last night - as this is pretty significant to see from a rookie D.

    What is his upside - will/could he be a top 10 D in the NHL - whicj NHL'er do you think he most compares to?

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    Default Re: Heiskanen - What is his Potential / Upside ?

    He seems like a Ryan Suter/Alex Pietrangelo type in that he'll not be a guy who hits 60, but he'll reliably be between 35-50 with a couple of seasons poking above 50. Especially given Klingberg's presence as the better offensive player. Heiskanen's main fantasy value will rest in reliability and ice time.

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    He’s heading to a 40 points season and already playing over 20 minutes a game... and he’s only 19! It would be hard to steal klingberg’s spot on PP1 but this kid has huge upside! I definitely see him as a top 20 D in a couple years
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    Potential/Upside IMO is top 5 dman in the league. As a 19-year he is looking at a 35-40 pt season which is extremely rare. To become a 60-70 point player when he reaches his prime should not be a surprise. He has the pedigree and should be right there in the conversation as one of the best players in the league in a couple seasons.
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    Hearkening back to a DobberHockey article which analyzed defenseman aging.

    https://dobberhockey.com/hockey-home...-1-defensemen/

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    Other than Zack Werenski last season there were seven defensemen aged 18 or 19 who put up 40+ points in one of these 20 campaigns. Of them, only one (Erik Karlsson) turned into a bona fide superstar, although in fairness another (Bryan Berard) had a very promising career derailed by injury. Among the other five, three had a couple of great seasons (Dion Phaneuf, Oleg Tverdovsky, Drew Doughty) while the other two (Tyler Myers, Cam Fowler) apparently peaked early. Let this serve as a reminder that Werenski isn’t a lock to be a fantasy star."

    Heiskanen could be Erik Karlsson. Or maybe Tyler Myers.

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    I think he's got immense upside. When watching the Devils/Stars game he was one of the most active and effective players on the ice. He's a stud on both sides of the rink.

    It's tough to say what it'll translate to in fantasy, though. So much of it is usage. He's an awesome hockey player though so he's got that going for him.

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    This season we are witnessing something very special and rare in NHL history with both Dahlin and Heiskanen entering the NHL. Both will be superstar dmen for years to come, with multiple Norris trophies between them.

    Limiting the conversation to Heiskanen only (though I could say lots of similar things about Dahlin), he displays confidence and skill hardly seen by any veteran dmen in the NHL, let alone a teenager.

    I know that historically there haven't been many teenage defensemen put up 40+ pts, and (as mentioned above) some of the ones who did couldn't sustain that production.

    Obviously no one can predict the future, but I personally feel that Heiskanen has the potential to be an elite offensive dman for years, despite Klingberg being on the team. I feel quite confidently that both Klingberg and Heiskanen can produce, and Dallas might even decide to play both of them on the top PP unit (like San Jose does with Karlsson and Burns and Nashville does with Josi and Ellis/Subban).

    All you have to do is watch Heiskanen play a handful of games to see that he is something very special.
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    Everybody knows goalies are voodoo, but defensemen aren't far off either. I have a hard time forecasting the ceiling of a defenseman because they rely so much more on powerplay points than forwards typically (look at Ghost this season for example on the league-worst Philly powerplay).

    Heiskanen is one of the best young defensemen in the game and should have a bright future but as long as Klingberg is around his true ceiling is unknown IMO.
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    Klingberg will be surpassed by Miro within 2 years. Klingberg is good and will still be a top PP guy, but Miro looks like a perennial 20+ goal scorer from the back end. He made the All-Star team as a 19-year old. As a D. Let that sink in for a moment, then contemplate the ceiling.
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    Not much else I can really add...but a 45-55 pt guy on a regular basis...but would not shock me at all to see him get into the 60's during some good years.
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    They should use Miro and Kling on the PP. If that happens.... Look out. He could be 50+ easy but until that happens, 40 is a likely ceiling

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    Quote Originally Posted by HonkyTonkMan View Post
    They should use Miro and Kling on the PP. If that happens.... Look out. He could be 50+ easy but until that happens, 40 is a likely ceiling
    With Benn out with injury, then used Faksa on the top unit last night. I was hoping to see Heiskanen with Klingberg, but as someone else mentioned it is tough to replace a forward with a dman on the top unit without a significant amount of practice. For the most part, it requires a completely different setup.
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    Heiskanen is one of the players I put forth an effort to watch if I get the chance. He's for lack of better words, unreal. He passes the eye test with flying colors and his stats are already impressive. And as mentioned, he's an all-star as a 19-year old D. Is he even going to be able to legally have a beer with the boys at the ASG yet?
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    So many young defenders have come into the league and put up nice points as teenagers only to trail off when their responsibilities increase. See: Ekblad, Werenski, Sergachev, Myers, etc. etc.

    Miro is not one of those guys. He's 19 and already playing difficult matchups and big minutes. He's even killing penalties!

    Dude's going to be very special. Has Niedermayer's legs

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    He is a very special player, and in 2 years he might do what morgan rielly is doing this season. Upside higher than klingberg
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