Pettersson a keeper?

[macker27]

Keep 3 league where you can only keep a guy for 4 years. Would it be good to try and grab Pettersson for the likes of Malkin (3rd keeper year) and maybe get something else in return? Is Pettersson the superstar he's looking like?

[Canucks13]

Yes.

[macker27]

Not biased?

[Canucks13]

Nope, he’s just a generational talent. Followed him from prior to the summer he was drafted. His progress in Sweden was insane and last year it would have translated to 4p/g in the CHL had he played there.

You just hope a player makes the transition and doesn’t bust and we’ve been very fortunate. There’s been absolutely no turbulence - he’s the real deal.

[Axeman33]

Nope, he’s just a generational talent. Followed him from prior to the summer he was drafted. His progress in Sweden was insane and last year it would have translated to 4p/g in the CHL had he played there.

You just hope a player makes the transition and doesn’t bust and we’ve been very fortunate. There’s been absolutely no turbulence - he’s the real deal.

I think this statement is a bit of a stretch. As usual that term gets thrown around too loosely. Crosby would be generational talent in our generation. Pettersson is a very good hockey player, a potential franchise player, but unlikely generational. There's a difference and that argument is one for a different thread.

To the OP, I can see an argument as to why you'd want to keep Pettersson. You question is a little vague. Are you saying you would trade Malkin for Pettersson "and a little something"?

[2014olympicgold]

I think this statement is a bit of a stretch. As usual that term gets thrown around too loosely. Crosby would be generational talent in our generation. Pettersson is a very good hockey player, a potential franchise player, but unlikely generational. There's a difference and that argument is one for a different thread.

To the OP, I can see an argument as to why you'd want to keep Pettersson. You question is a little vague. Are you saying you would trade Malkin for Pettersson "and a little something"?

It sounds like it's Pettersson + for Malkin is what he's saying.

3.5yrs of Pettersson vs 1.5yrs of Malkin....
I'd be curious if the Pettersson owner would even do it straight up let alone Pettersson+

[BenTrovato]

If you've watched 1 period of Pettersson I'm shocked you would ask this question so let's assume you haven't watched Elias play at all. Spoiler: he's amazing, calder winner, will score 100 points next year as Malkin hits the IR. The other guy is probably salivating at the thought of getting Pettersson for Malkin.

[Pugsy]

I think it has more to do with who you have kept for how long. Not knowing that and based on your scoring which I'm assuming is H2H Roto, not points which would be a different strategy. I'd probably go with Kucherov, Gaudreau and one of the defenseman. If this was deeper I'd keep Pettersson. Overall, Kucherov, Gaudreau and a defenseman will give you more value than a Pettersson at the moment. That doesn't mean he wont be a star in the next few years but given your, format I think it's more important to take the guaranteed categories and gamble on hitting in the draft. There are a plethora of Center eligible players whereas it's harder to find good roto D-men. I think you have a better shot at redrafting Pettersson than you would a Kucherov, Gaudreau or a current top 5 roto D-man like Letang.

[2014olympicgold]

If you've watched 1 period of Pettersson I'm shocked you would ask this question so let's assume you haven't watched Elias play at all. Spoiler: he's amazing, calder winner, will score 100 points next year as Malkin hits the IR. The other guy is probably salivating at the thought of getting Pettersson for Malkin.

People over use "Generational Talent" as you did.

McDavid and Crosby are Generational
Malkin, Ovi, Matthews, Marner, Eichel, JG, Kuch, Stamkos those guys are in their best ever...Elite.

Don't use generational for a guy who does things others do. Kuch can score 100pts, doesn't make him generational. Pettersson can score 100pts one season, doesn't mean he's generational. Generational Talent is a player of the ages, does things not 1 other player in the NHL can even think of doing. You can go generations without a generational talent, it's something special and doesn't just get tossed around, but a lot of people toss it around to describe Elite players.

Pettersson has the potential to be Elite, he is a far ways from Generational. Not saying he can't get there, but he's legit has to get to McDavid level to be generational. And he just isn't projected to be that. Would you trade Pettersson for McDavid? Yes, and that proves the point that McDavid is Generational and Pettersson is not.

Don't talk down to forum members because they are saying you are using a term wrong in a respectable tone.

[Canucks13]

People over use "Generational Talent" as you did.

McDavid and Crosby are Generational
Malkin, Ovi, Matthews, Marner, Eichel, JG, Kuch, Stamkos those guys are in their best ever...Elite.

Don't use generational for a guy who does things others do. Kuch can score 100pts, doesn't make him generational. Pettersson can score 100pts one season, doesn't mean he's generational. Generational Talent is a player of the ages, does things not 1 other player in the NHL can even think of doing. You can go generations without a generational talent, it's something special and doesn't just get tossed around, but a lot of people toss it around to describe Elite players.

Pettersson has the potential to be Elite, he is a far ways from Generational. Not saying he can't get there, but he's legit has to get to McDavid level to be generational. And he just isn't projected to be that. Would you trade Pettersson for McDavid? Yes, and that proves the point that McDavid is Generational and Pettersson is not.

Don't talk down to forum members because they are saying you are using a term wrong in a respectable tone.

I agree the term generational is used loosely but I also think you’re using it incorrectly. How can you say McDavid & Crosby are generational but then say Ovie and Malkin aren’t? It’s rather insane how often people forget Malkin due in part to being overshadowed by Crosby. And Ovi...the greatest pure/raw goal scorer in NHL history not generational!? Lol.

Players like Stamkos/Kuch/Eichel/Marner are a tier below I agree as they’re just very good players but players like them have come and gone lots. Matthews I’d say it’s too early to make a claim but he’s right there in the argument. And again sorry but you’re a bit all over the place by then also saying Jagr isn’t.


...anyways, I didn’t say Pettersson is a generational *player* - at least not yet. Thus why I said generational TALENT because he most certainly is that and has the trajectory/capability/potential to reach being such a player :]

[Axeman33]

I agree the term generational is used loosely but I also think you’re using it incorrectly. How can you say McDavid & Crosby are generational but then say Ovie and Malkin aren’t? It’s rather insane how often people forget Malkin due in part to being overshadowed by Crosby. And Ovi...the greatest pure/raw goal scorer in NHL history not generational!? Lol.

Players like Stamkos/Kuch/Eichel/Marner are a tier below I agree as they’re just very good players but players like them have come and gone lots. Matthews I’d say it’s too early to make a claim but he’s right there in the argument. And again sorry but you’re a bit all over the place by then also saying Jagr isn’t.


...anyways, I didn’t say Pettersson is a generational *player* - at least not yet. Thus why I said generational TALENT because he most certainly is that and has the trajectory/capability/potential to reach being such a player :]

I'm not even ready to call McDavid "generational" yet. Whether it be player/talent/whatever because he hasn't proved enough yet. Don't get me wrong, two scoring titles and a Hart trophy are a great start but he needs to lead his team to the gloryland of winning it all before I am labelling him as anything other than a great player.

Let me know when Pettersson gets to McDavids level and has done what he's done and maybe then we can start putting him in the conversation with McDavid.

Once he's passed McDavid and won something significant and lead his team to the gloryland, we can mention the term generational anything with his name. You need to temper your description. Your fandom is oozing a tad too much.

[saucelife90]

Pettersson was drafted 5th overall, and didn't start his NHL career until he was almost 20 years old. Lets pump the brakes on generational. No one was calling Barzal generational last season when he put up a PPG season.

To answer the OP's question, yes, it makes sense to move Malkin who you can only keep for 1 more season for Pettersson who you'll be able to keep for 4.

[MZac]

McDavid has the potential to be a generational player but I'm with axe in that you can't crown him yet. Generational is just that, one per generation. Pettersson has a 30 game sample size where he's been really good, or even elite if we must. Generational? Not even close.

[Ryan9]

Elite going forward? Absolutely, I can see that. Generational I’ll get back to you in 5 years lol, but I don’t see it right now.

[rangerdanger]

I do like Pettersson in this format. His value will just go up from here. With only one year left of Malkin, I think I woudl do it. Plus, Malkin can always regress next season, hes getting to that age.

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